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  1. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs
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    Is there a bigger group of whinge bags on Earth than this hippy do-gooder collective of self aggrandising ****heads?

    Just look at the state of their campaigns http://www.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns - pick every single issue that everyone hates and then send a load of emails to an MP. Great, that'll change the world.

    They managed to catch me out on some subject I actually kinda cared about two years ago, they harvested my email address, claimed me as a member, and now they constantly send mails telling me how important they are, and how much their spam emails to MPs are changing the world. **** off, you Tobyesque greetin ****s.


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    Dear Michael,

    “Do you recognise how much influence you as an organisation have on the way people think about politics and politicians?”

    That’s what a Conservative MP said to me yesterday about 38 Degrees members. I was speaking in front of a committee of MPs looking into why people choose not to vote or get involved with the political process. I wanted to speak for as many of us as possible - so thank you to all 110,000 members who filled in the survey this week. [1]

    It really felt like some of the MPs were listening. Some of them were clearly rattled after hearing our home truths. But they all recognised that we’re a hugely influential movement - and that’s because our strength comes from the way we work together.

    In his closing remarks, the committee chair, Graham Allen MP even said:

    “You are not just you, sitting at the table as an ordinary person. You come as an enormous 800 pound gorilla with 2 million members at your back. You’re a very powerful and influential person, I would like to use that influence to get from you and your members a serious, positive package of things… We all know where we are and it’s not a good place. How do we get to that place and improve voter engagement?”

    I’ve never been called a gorilla before. But putting that aside, if I’d had the opportunity to respond, I would have said that our power comes from all 2.5 million of us standing together. To watch the evidence session click here:

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    Reading through your responses to the survey, what stood out above all else was a very real crisis of confidence, in politicians and the political system over all. I did my best to represent your views and hopefully I did a good job. [2] But it was hard not to get angry on behalf of us all.

    One of the Conservative MPs in the committee, Christopher Chope, chipped in at the beginning to say that this survey wasn’t representative of the public at large. And then left 10 minutes into the session. Another MP wouldn’t let me get a word in edgeways, it seemed he just wanted to shout at me, not listen.

    I know lots of us are sceptical about what happens next. But, together, we need to push for our democracy to work better for all of us. It’s too important to leave to politicians alone. What’s clear is that our movement proves that we deserve better - and together we’ll continue to work to achieve this.

    To watch me give evidence to the committee of MPs click here:
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/thank-you-MP-committee



    Thanks for being involved,

    David,
    Executive Director, 38 Degrees
     
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  2. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    Micks populist past shame.
     
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  3. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    I particularly liked this one:

     
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  4. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    Hadaway n' ****e, yer ****ing middle class, island dwelling, tax evading, head in sand escapee
     
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  5. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    38 Degrees 38 unpaid student loans
     
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  6. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    True. Making ****ty threads moping about it on the internet will sort everything out though <ok>
     
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  7. RAVENBLACK

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    Prick.
     
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  8. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    You are always angry lately ER what`s up?
     
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  9. RAVENBLACK

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    Im never angry.
     
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  10. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    Good
     
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  11. RAVENBLACK

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    **** off you ****in old ****.
     
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  12. Shameless

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    ER in another incomprehensible senile rant
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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  14. DevAdvocate

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    [h=2]campaign
    Legal Aid

    [/h]On Tuesday, MPs will vote on the government's cuts to legal aid - email you MP and ask them to back the changes made by the Lords.

    They are pulling our plonkers.
     
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  15. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    <laugh>
     
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  16. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    38 Degrees? They do some good and some not so good.

    One of my friends works for them :)
     
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  17. SUPERNORWICH 23

    SUPERNORWICH 23 SUPERNORWICH

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    Is it Mick ST?
     
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  18. The Raging Oxter

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  19. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs
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    Corporation Tax is a failed tax - it only generates about 5% of tax receipts and we have to listen to everyone bitch all the time about companies dodging it. They should just get rid of it and up the minimum wage, forcing the money into the hands of local staff before it can be repatriated offshore. At the moment we have civil servants being paid a wage to chase after these companies, just to pay it to the same lowly paid people employed by these companies (in the form of tax credits) anyway.
     
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  20. Archers Road

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    Something wrong here; a worryingly sensible suggestion. Where's the evidence of internal conflict and contradiction that characterises most of the views you express on this forum?
     
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