Given the PR disaster they've overseen with the proposal, I'm at a loss to see how anyone could expect a marketing success from them if they got their way with the name.
I should hope your not. Not the best comparison though. You jump from the bridge, you might live, you would probably die. Not sure what you're trying to achieve to risk your life though. If we change the name we might make some money, you would argue probably not. But what is the worst outcome? We have a different name with no financial gain? We might even lose some money short term. It's not death though is it.
If we change the name we might make some money How, exactly? Since Ehab doesn't seem to know the answer to this, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
I ****ing hate people who say that. They're so ****ing thick. I'm still mad about the blatant robbery taking place with these England shirts.
The worst outcome is that the game in England changes beyond recognition, traditional values that have been one of the basic reasons our game is sold worldwide are lost, and the worldwide tv audiences that give clubs such as ours so much money, drift away, thereby harming our chances of growth rather than enhancing them. Locally, the club loses its identity with the commumity and fans lose affinity and loyalty to a business that patently doesn't care about them. All speculation, but the FA are not prepared to risk the future because one man took offence when the local council didn't beg him for his money.
No, but increasing our income (excluding parachute payments and transfer fees) by £35,000 during the year we got automatic promotion isn't the best CV, is it? The creation of another local football team like FC United of Manchester wouldn't be the best business practice either.
I take your point, but our city is not in the best state financially. Our crowds dropped despite us playing some of the best football we had seen. I know that was down to lots of factors but the main one in my opinion is that many people simply cannot afford to go. While our local economy is struggling we are going to struggle to make massive gains locally.
It is all speculation. I put it to you that none of that will happen. Why do other countries not pay millions for championship football if it's tradition they crave. The championship is a better representation of English football. Why did the old division 1 not command the same position on the world stage. People watch the Premier League because it has the best players in the world. We attract them because of the money in the league. Money generated from the re branding of of Division 1 to the premier league. If its such a bad idea, why would the rest of the league copy us and change their names? The top teams will not change their names because they already have well known successful brands. Therefore how would the English game change beyond all recognition. As long as the best players play here the money will stay and vice verse. With regard to the club losing it's identity with the community, the fact that the name is not changing beyond all recognition, i think the connection to the community will be maintained. It is the word Hull that connects me with the club. Not City.
Nobody believes we will make any extra money from being called Hull Tigers. Not even the Allam's. It's utter bollocks.
You must have some information that I don't. Everything i have heard from the Allam's suggest they do think it will make money.
Did you not listen to their last interview with Burnsy? Ehab said there wasn't anybody coming in even if we did become Hull Tigers & the figures were off the top of his head, ie made up.
Well time will tell if this is true because he has pissed off lots of people with this. I think in the championship it would affect us much more than in this league. How many will stop going? I bet it's not as many as you think.
Yes i did listen. The fact that no body has come in yet does not mean that it wont help attract sponsors in the future. Did he not say it was a 5 year plan?
AA falls out with the council and decides he doesn't want them to 'bask in Hull City's reflective glory' so decides to remove City from our name. Ehab, Nick Thompson and pretty much everyone else he knows says it's a **** idea and he should bin it. Nobody tells him what to do, so he continues regardless. No.1 son is left with no option but to support dad, even though he thinks it's a stupid idea. Unfortunately, No.1 son is unable to continue the myth under questioning and announces live on local radio that there is no sponsor, no investment, no research, there's **** all. Nobody, who knows anything about marketing, or Asia, or in fact anyone with an IQ that exceeds three figures, sees this as anything but a farce.
Ok, i have heard you say that before. I don't know if it's true or not. What i don't understand is how this affects the council. None of our other sporting clubs have city in the name so why does he and everyone who quotes this suggest it will get at the council. If it was all just about annoying the council then he would be better moving the club out of hull and changing the Hull part of the name.
Of course it's speculation, that's also what the Allams are doing- speculating. Unfortunately for them the FA are not prepared to risk a massive pot of money, that is benefiting ALL football clubs, on something they also don't think will work. They have to look at the bigger picture, for years to come, and if they allow a name change at one club there is nothing to stop very wealthy owners coming into English football and changing names for their own benefit and not for the good of the game in general. It wouldn't happen overnight and might never happen at all, but why fix something that is definitely not broken. The Premier League do market research, as do tv companies such as Sky and NBC. That's why those companies pay billions for Premier League football, they know that the consumer likes the product. The Championship may be more representative of English football, but the consumer is wanting the mixture of top quality players playing for the traditional English clubs, with names that have been around for a century and more. Even in England, Sky will show lower league games involving better known names such as Coventry and Portsmouth over "lesser" names, because the tv audience knows of past glories. We may not have much of a history in the top league, but it is already known. The connection between the club and community is already being eroded. The fact that our promotion party was held in house is a prime example. I personally have followed the club for nearly 50 years, I feel less affinity with it now than I ever have.
Really? Even when interviewed specifically about the name they can't offer any evidence to suggest it'd work. The main arguments we've been offered so far are that: Everton have a good sponsorship deal. and: McCoy's crisps have a tiger on their advert. I think if Ehab had said nothing at all, it'd have been more convincing. If there was any hint of good business reasoning behind this they'd have been able to get it across by now. If anyone looks at the facts and what's been said, and believes this really is about finance then it can only be because they want to believe it, presumably born of a need to disagree with the majority of supporters.
They don't give a ****, that's the ridiculous thing, this whole vendetta is happening entirely in AA's head.
He said he's moving the club to Melton. It would seem the only reason he's still at the KC is because he can't afford to move.
