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  1. Jonesey

    Jonesey Well-Known Member

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    http://www1.skysports.com/football/...fficers-questioned-over-hillsborough-disaster


    he Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has identified 13 retired or serving police officers as "suspects" in the ongoing investigation into the Hillsborough disaster.
    The IPCC said 11 of these had already been interviewed under caution relating to a range of offences including manslaughter as well as misconduct in a public office and perverting the course of justice.
    A spokesman said the other two would be interviewed in the near future.
    The spokesman said four of the 13 have been identified as suspects as part of both the IPCC's investigation and also Operation Resolve - the criminal investigation into the 1989 tragedy.
    The IPCC's inquiry - the biggest it has ever undertaken - covers the actions of the police in the aftermath of the crush at Hillsborough stadium, in Sheffield, which left 96 Liverpool fans dead.
    The investigation was announced after the commission reviewed the report of the Hillsborough Independent Panel, which uncovered a huge amount of new evidence about what happened during and after the tragedy.
    It is examining allegations including those surrounding amendments to police statements, the actions of the police officers after the disaster and the role of West Midlands Police, which investigated what happened at the time.
    Operation Resolve, under the command of assistant commissioner Jon Stoddart, the retired chief constable of Durham Police, is a new, wider-ranging criminal investigation into the disaster.
    The IPCC said it could not give any further information about the people who had been arrested and how many of them had been interviewed in relation to allegations of manslaughter.
    The coroner was told that the BBC has recently found an hour of unseen footage of the disaster which is now being considered by the legal teams.
    The hearing was later adjourned after hearing legal argument around a range of issues including the "pen portrait" statements each family will present to the inquest about their loved ones who died in 1989.
    On Monday the full inquests will start and are expected to last at least nine months.
     
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  2. Hope they throw the book at them all and strip them of their pensions too!
     
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  3. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    progress at last, just hope it's the right people who are among the 11.

    what baring does this have on the police allegedly using the drunkenness of fans as their defence?

    this blow that bollocks out the water? hope so.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yes process. It fills one with hope frankly.

    there will be many year of court cases and frankly who knows what will occur but it marks a step change in establishment thinking surely. the courts and government are no longer sitting with the police as the establishment protecting each other.

    The truth is a great remedy to the ills of power.
     
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    I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure.
    Still think they only attempt to clean up their act when they get caught.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope the pressure of a possible jail term makes one of them break ranks and spill the beans on the whole disgraceful crime.
     
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  7. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    Throw the book at the despicable ****s
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    indeed yet this is the only way an independent oversight system might be installed that people can complain to and get a real investigation.
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    This sad saga still has a long way to go to resolve itself.

    Whatever the outcomes, it will never truly bring the closure that The Families, Scousers and the majority of football supporters hope for. We cry for justice - and some justice we may get. However, some will escape justice and others receive what we believe to be insufficient punishment.

    Before any judgement is passed we have to accept that what we actually desire - public identification of responsibility for negligence, incompetence and or wrong-doing and punishment- the law cannot deliver in full. Any judgement given cannot order punishment. Under the law, any sanction is designed to change behaviour NOT to punish the individual. You and I may disagree with that stance but it is enshrined in legal philosophy.

    I don't know who said the law was an ass but I'm sure that in complicated cases like this, the law will trip itself up. Even if a judgement stripped a police officer of his right to a continued pension. There is probably another law which prohibits that from happening! So whatever the final judgement on individuals actually is, I feel confident that it will not satisfy the audiences listed above. Sad but true.
     
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  10. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    in other words it will make a mockery of certain people labelled sirs and the honour system, so they will do their damnest to find them innocent somehow, even though we know that not to be true, ****s!!!!

    tell you what is sad but true is we all moan about crime figures, but be interesting to see how bad that actually would be if the law had the balls to charge people who are in a position of power or have money such as mp's scandal ie expenses (fraud) all half of them did was give the money back, you don't get that option when you go to court as a civilian, so why should/did they,still a crime!

    i just hope whatever happens in this its not just some scapegoat, and the actual ones who are guilty face punishment, but wont hold my breath.
     
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