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Monk vs 2014 - 2015 Season

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by roofjack_22, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    If Garry is able to comfortably lift us out of the relegation battle and into the battle for a top ten spot in the final 7 games , should he continue next season as the manager? The " Deer Caught in Headlights " shock of being the manager seems to be lessening for him and he is settling in so I think we will get a truer read on his ability with the remainder of the season. Although I think we may struggle a bit on the transfer scene, if he delivers these final games , I think for the long run we should let him build himself into our long term man
     
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  2. ivoralljack

    ivoralljack Well-Known Member

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    NO from me. This is the Premier League and no place for a rookie manager to cut his teeth. There is far more to management than motivation and I feel that Monk should serve his apprenticeship under a proven, experienced man.

    If we survive this season, one of the most critical factors in our bid to kick on next season, will be the quality of player that we bring in. Let's be honest, Garry Monk's name will not attract players of ability to come here. They, and their agents, will know that he's a newbie. They will fear that the club might be embroiled in another relegation battle next season and will want no part of that.

    By all means, groom Monk for the future. Allow him his learning curve so that he can improve and gain experience but as an assistant rather than the man in charge. If he's good enough and proves it then by all means give him his chance when the opportunity presents itself.
     
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  3. Swamp

    Swamp Well-Known Member

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    'They will fear that the club might be embroiled in another relegation battle next season and will want no part of that.'

    your chairman, manager (whoever he will be), players, and fans, will all think the same, its the reality for 10 or so teams in this league, players arent stupid, joining small clubs in the PL is about doing well and moving on, and money of course.
     
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  4. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Agree Ivor, Monk needs to finish his badges and do his apprenticeship. He would be in a much better position then in a few years time. That said, he's done a good job so far <ok>
     
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    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure. Getting thrown in at the deep end can have a positive effect on a person, no matter what the job is. (Equally, it can have a disastrous effect, depending on your personality.)

    If Garry Monk can get the points in over the last 7 games I don't have any problem giving him a shot at a full season. Results-wise, he's just come up slightly short each time, so I was delighted with the late equaliser last night as I thought we thoroughly deserved it.

    His know-how in the transfer market is untested at this point, so I would concede that could be an issue.
     
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  6. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    I want to take a step back on " Managers who bring big transfers " It's a bit late for the badge issue , he's already here so he'll have to go to night school for his badges .I'm not talking about him gliding us into the premier league football next season with a just above relegation spot , I'm talking a 12 or more points from the remainig games blitz . The biggest thing that will hold the team together for another season , without a splintering team in the summer , is a big finish to the season. If Monk can pull it off , he deserves another season , with a transfer specialist at his side . Do I think he will get that chance from the board if he has that big finish, no .... will he deserve the chance , yes.
     
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  7. swan_and_only

    swan_and_only Moderator Forum Moderator

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    Spot on Ivor!

    Monk and the team did brilliantly last night, but let's not get too carried away. The real test is beating rival clubs like Norwich and steering our club to safety.

    Last night I think we saw some of monks tactics, witch was refreshing because I think we've become too predictable.

    Well done monk for last night and having the balls and belief, because could have gone tits up lats night. Now show us the same Saturday!
     
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  8. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I concur with that bit fully! But lets be honest here, who seriously thinks Monk is going to be manager come summer? he's a stop gap solution, nothing else!................<cheers>
     
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  9. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    He did better than a lot expected and I include myself in that , although he was on a win win situation with anything but a loss a bonus last night ,but fair play the team played well enough and the selection and substitutions looked like they worked well enough.Proof has to be from now on ,no more excuses /reasons why we can't perform like last night for 90 minutes ,no more 1st half only performances please
     
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  10. gendrosjack

    gendrosjack New Member

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    Sorry Roof I totally disagree with Monk being manager. I dont think he has the vision, ability or contacts that we need. I wouldnt like to see him in charge in any of the divisions and I dont think coaching badges mean jack as all professional footballers have witnessed coaching all their lives.
    His record with us is simply appalling. It was a good result against the Gunners against a backdrop of dismal failure. It frighten's me that he keeps us up and then takes us forward next year.
    Much better option would be Poyet.
     
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  11. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Unless a director of football was brought in to oversee these sort of things. Don't forget Roberto and Brendan weren't exactly household names and managed to attract the required players when needed.
     
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    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    True for Roberto but Brendan had a lot of background and contacts.
     
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  13. swanseaandproud

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    I can see some very unhappy jacks next season .....monk is going nowhere and is promised the job full time to be confirmed as soon as he qualifies....you heard it here first that is common knowledge at the club. Jenkins is well pleased with the way monk is sorting the club out and his management skills with the players. He deserves the job for next season regardless what happens..Watch this space....
     
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  14. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    "He deserves the job for next season regardless of what happens " said dai .Post of the week material please terror!. Sorry dai , Monk better come up with somerhing special the rest of the way or his chance will have ended before it ever got started.
     
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  15. Sbulby

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    Monk will not be offered the job next season, it's pretty obvious to me. If he had delivered the results then maybe, but there is no doubt now he will not get the position full time. One win in eleven is poor by any standard, a 9.1% win ratio.
     
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  16. ivoralljack

    ivoralljack Well-Known Member

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    Martinez was recruiting in the lower divisions where there are many players, including British, who can perform at that level. Rodgers did OK for us but not great - probably working under financial constraints.
     
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  17. mustyfrog

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    if QPR do not win promotion what about H. Redknapp?
     
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  18. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Not for me Musty. I'd rather Monk keep the job. He nearly wrecked Bales's career in the early days.
     
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  19. DragonPhilljack

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    So you say Dai, but then you are not Huw Jenkins are you??
     
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  20. swanseaandproud

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    You have to look at the big overall picture into why monk will be the manager next season. there is more than just results that come into the boards decision to appoint monk here. Its been noted that monk who was thrust into the job at short notice with no managerial experience what so ever and had to deal with so many big games in a very short space of time in Europe and the league. A experienced manager would have trouble getting results in that position. We can see very plainly that the football has improved tremendously and we are playing some fantastic football where we never gave up trying to win, We did not look like a dying swan and have matched all of the big sides and that is all down to monk and the players who now have a sense of belonging to the club. they had lost that under laudrup and laudrup lost the players respect. Monk should be given credit not slated for what he has achieved in a very short space of time and we are getting better each week and we will see that our narrow losses or draws against all these big teams could have been wins. I know that monk is to be the manager next season and i know that the fans trust and the board and jinx are over the moon with the way monk has turned the club around. Its very important that the club has to be run correctly before results on the pitch can happen and that is beginning to show with the way the players are performing now on the field.
     
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