Ehab meets Burnsy

Ehab's a ****. I can't stand hearing the slimy bastard talk.

Burnsy's a good commentator but he's been so **** with this name change stuff it's unreal, like most journalists. Ehab really pushed him into admitting that Hull City isn't a unique name because there are other cities but didn't say a word about the fact there's loads of other Tigers', including at least one other in English football (Hyde). He wasn't forceful enough. I know he's scared of not getting the interviews etc and it probably all comes from above but it's still disappointing hearing him let Ehab talk such **** and not pull him up on it.

EA: "The evidence is there." [To suggest a name change makes money].

DB: "What's the evidence Ehab?"

EA: "Everton have just signed a major sponsorship deal."

DB: "Right I see."

What he should have actually said is "Look you daft **** you don't know **** all do you? How the **** does Everton having a sponsorship deal prove that changing the name will help us get one? If anything it proves that success on the pitch along with a traditional English football name is what attracts sponsors you arrogant ****er."

At no point did he point out how totally frigging stupid it is to believe sponsors want us to change our name, and at no point did he point out all the other clubs who have traditional names and are doing fine with sponsorship. He also neglected to mention that we're already tigers for **** sake.

 

I think burnsie was just trying not to laugh at the daft twat

 

On top of that, much as I fully support the work CTWD do and their principles, I don't think they're convincing enough when interviewed. I've heard most of their interviews and whoever is doing it always spends so much time going on about how much they want Allam to stay and CTWD is not an anti-Allam campaign that they run out of time to make the good points we know they could be making about the ridiculous crap Allam keeps coming out with. I quite regularly listen to the Amber Nectar podcasts and I think they make the case much better. I'm aware that both Les and Andy are part of the CTWD campaign of course.

I think on the forums, in pubs and at games the anti-name change case is well made, but in public no one really has the balls to say what needs to be said.

 

He talks of a USP (unique selling point) and can't see a disadvanatage of the name change...erm, we already can attract people wanting to be associated with The Tigers PLUS others. If we limit it to just Hull Tigers, we limit the other options, so it's not a USP at all, it's the opposite.

"What's a Tiger got to do with McCoy crisps?" asks Ehaw as though that's an argument.

 

Well said--three cheers! Fully agree.

 

I would say the most important part of the Everton deal was the 10 years they had worked together cementing the relationship between the club and the sponsor.

 

That's because you're the fake vagina on a blowup doll owned by an overweight virgin American trucker in his 50s who has a hygiene problem. Just imagine the amount of irrelevant spunk that's inside you.

 

I didn't know Polly was chubby?

 

I've just listened to this and I actually thought Burnsy was fantastic. Even challenging EA by saying that "HULL CITY" is a unique name; to which Allam had absolutely nothing to say back and actually challenging Ehab to points, and making Ehab look like a quivering idiot.

I remember meeting EA at North Ferriby during the summer (Billy Bly Trophy match) and he seemed like a spoilt, rich kid with his trophy wife and flash car, and cared only about himself, at least Allam senior had the time to talk to the fans.

Unfortunately Burnsy, the LAST thing he said may not ring true and may annoy a fair few, will the fans say "Yes to Hull Tigers," I don't think so.

 

I agree to a point, whenever I hear Andy (I think) or Rick Skelton I always feel that this is a group that knows what they want, and those two guys know what they're talking about, and can put it across in an intelligent but convincing way. I only heard the start of the bloke on the radio this morning's interview, but it was a bit cringeworthy and he never really articulated his point well at all.

I fully appreciate how difficult it is speaking in public and on the telly/radio, and it's something I've done myself in the past and hate doing, but I think they'd be better picking a couple of the better speakers and letting them do the vast majority of public speaking; work commitments permitting.

 

I don't even think the problem was the person speaking, it's just that he spent far, far too much time re-enforcing what we'v heard 100 times that it isn't an anti-Allam campaign, he didn't actually highlight any of the issues in what Ehab had said or the name change idea on the whole.

 

Bloody hell, i'm nominating Mr Hat for the Nobel Prize in Literature!

 

I think the actual point is that a sports team depends on local support and is seen to represent the area over a long time in a way that no other business really does. A club appeals to local support to watch and support the local team even when they are struggling based on local loyalty. This is why there are problems when a club is moved like Wimbledon was. Even in America where they like to think of sports teams as 'franchises' which don't have such local roots there are outcrys when they try and move. People realise there as well that a team represents an area, it isn't the owner that is granted a 'franchise' it's actually the area. Owners come and go, the club persists, the area persists, the name of the team that represents the area also persists.

 

Didn't hear the interview and have no intention of listening.

There is no concrete evidence or data to support the idea that a name change will bring in more money.

As we all know, the desire to alter our name comes from Assem Allam who bears a grudge against Hull City Council.

All the hot air of the last year or so has been bluster, lies, spurious theories to support what is basically a falling out with the council.

I don't know if deep down the Allam camp know and admit this privately, but maybe believe they can con everyone else whilst issuing veiled threats to pull the plug - which they know intimidates the weak and fringe customers.

They are not clever enough nor passionate enough to convince anyone that they have the wellbeing of the club at heart. For them it's all about control, authority, prestige and money.

They even now appear to have no connect with how the fans feel and their autocratic management style is utterly inappropriate for football club owners.

People go to football to get away from some overbearing turd in a shirt and tie, spouting crap from behind a big desk, telling them what to say and think.

The Allams will continue to flounder and garner bad press locally, nationally and internationally as long as they persist with their notions of 'imposing' their will on their customers instead of listening to them and working with them.

Ffs, they've done the near miraculous as we contemplate a trip to Wembley- why can't they do the piss easy thing and listen to advice from other people in the football world?????

 

That's like asking what the Dambusters had to do with Carling Black Label.

 

I'd say 'heavy', not chubby though and he defo only has the 1 account

 

I only caught the very start of the interview because I had to go to work, he just seemed to spend a lot of time erm-ing and stammering, and like PLT says all I heard was him talking about how good the Allam's have been for us.

I'll do my best to listen to the full interview later on and will see what I think then!

 

What a shower of ****s at the top of our football club.