surely that is self explanatory, ie wages could be better used elsewhere, just because money is no object to your club doesn't mean its a rule for all. rather see the players i listed given chances personally, and is it just a coincidence that he starts playing well the minute a contract needs renewing, hmmm.
I think fans would be better off letting the Board of Directors, accountants, and the many, many years of experience FSG have of running Sports clubs decide what wages Liverpool FC can afford, and how to distribute them.
accept when it comes to rival fans telling us about finances law etc obviously, amazing how many experts you come across then (not aimed at you directly that comment)
He constantly insults people on here, you are looking at what may seem like an overreaction but if you had this petulant child posting on your board day after day you'd soon change your mind.
The Chelsea board is like GC at times so not sure your comment regarding insults is really valid Similarly, your comment regarding budgets can be seen in the same light
Oh we have a couple of cock knockers on our board for sure. I think we all know who they are. Regarding budgets, I have about as much power to dictate to Roman how he handles the budget at CFC as you do to dictate to FSG how they handle the budget at LFC, which is 0 power. We just have to trust that the finance brains at our respective clubs know what they are doing and will meet FFP. p.s regarding Livtor, I am only commenting on this thread, I am not privvy to any of his previous transgressions.
That's the same for absolutely every aspect of a club, yet as fans we debate every point as if the managers and owners are listening in. Wages are important for us. shaving 50k off Johnson's contract allows us to add 50k to Suarez' contract, which is a big deal for example. Also our wage bill just a few years ago was crippling us. I think it's also mentality, I think average players on big salaries get complacent, Johnson doesn't deserve a new 100k pw contract. he's an average right back
Fair enough Liv! As I said in later posts, I assumed my feelings about Johnson regarding attitude, performance etc were well known on here so focussed on the wages as I saw contract renewal in your OP. I would generally agree with the benefit of the doubt regarding injuries. I said something similar when BR stated the same about Allen. Staff are in a better position to see if it's injury or attitude. Buttttt....Publicly there's more goes on sometimes...Look at Brs comments over Downing..we all thought he was ****e, clear he wasn't good enough or pulling his weight yet BR kept talking him up, saying he was part of his plans, playing him. The fact he was sold quick once the offer came in suggests BR was making the player look as attractive as possible. This may not be the case with GJ but taking Rodgers literally is sometimes a mistake. Same goes (much to MITO's annoyance) with Reina. And I can question Manager decision making without thinking the manager is totally rubbish, same with transfer negotiators, team selection and set up. Substitutions etc,...all things he's technically more qualified than me to decide. But IMO being a fan is not to trust unquestioning no matter what it's to engage. That's different to trust and loyalty in my eyes. In other words I can whinge because it's not my job on the line. Otherwise you could argue that Hicks and Gillett should have been given that level of deference or hodgeson.... And just to be clear I have and always have been pro Rodgers..
Could apply the same logic to players, managers, styles, etc too Edit: seems Sir_Red beat me to this point
I'm a bit late to the party and I haven't read other comments but my take on it is, Rodgers is doing a PR job to whip up some interest and try and boost the price. Johnson is pretty much nailed on to leave and I hope he does. One good performance against the bottom team will not make me change my opinion.
Petulant child, eh? Attaboy. Now, you're getting what an 'insult' is. And being a quick study, you're also learning the meaning of the word 'hypocrisy' whilst at it. Attaboy, luv.
Just read the ridiculous article on Sky Sports: http://www1.skysports.com/football/...brendan-rodgers-tactics-in-the-premier-league Are they for real??
The point already made by Frank [I think?] is when Liverpool season tickets are one of the most highly priced and we all work hard to get the money to pay for that ticket, in effect paying the players wages, as fans with ST's we aren't out of place talking about players wages. Now there may be people on here who don't have an obscenely priced ST who couldn't care less about how their fellow fan's money is distributed and that's ok but for those paying substantial sums into the club year on year seeming to care more - maybe - about wages should be understandable. Also the fact that wages is maybe the first comment from some people on here, could indicate that those people have already decided that the player is worth keeping for his abilities and/or what he adds to the team, but conditional on him being paid in accordance with that contribution.
Why are his wages important: - Glen's wages could be used on 2-3 players who could actually contribute to this team on a consistent basis. - A right back earning over £100k would imply he is world class. He is not. He's never been world class and never will be. He is the 3rd highest paid full back in the world which is ridiculous and undeserving. The muppets who gave him the contract need shooting. I want value for money.
That is a big thing for me, even if he is at 70k a week, that is 30 k to be used for a variety of things...... each week too.
surely you can rate someone, but not think they are deserving of the wages they are currently on and think they should be lower?
Well, after you'd have embarassed him to the point of reducing his wages four fold, are you sure you'd want a man sulking even further and perhaps with now crippled self-esteem as your second-choice RB? I think at that point, you'd be better finding a new one altogether for £30k a week...
