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Mabbutt says Spurs should sell Modric.

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  1. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Because he's nearly always injured, Luke, I suspect.
     
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  2. NSIS

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    There, I agree with you. I just wish these numbskulls would get the message and give it a rest. I see the Sunday Times has moved on to Sandro, now, Mourinho wants him, so they reckon.
     
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    He said EXACTLY the same about berbatov...and then you still went and sold him anyway. <doh>
     
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  4. PINKIE

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    Can't see this deal happening - Chelsea need Essien and I can't see any reason why he would want to go to Spurs, it would be a big step down for him not to be playing Champions League football.

    As for Levy's statement, that's the role of the chairman to try and keep his best players. But as mentioned, it did happen with another want away player, Berbatov. You can't blame Modric for wanting to play at a higher level. If the price is right, I think he will go.
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I wouldn't say that Modric's head is twice the size of a normal person's, but blue does make him look a bit less ugly.....
     
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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Gary Mabbutt has said that Spurs should sell Modric and 'Move on'


    “The main thing is that missing out on the top four last year the players got a taste of Champions League football and when you’re getting big offers coming in with the opportunity of playing in the Champions League and there is always a risk of this happening."

    “We’ve got to look to the future, if he wants to go there is no point holding back an unhappy player, you’ve got to use that money and build.”

    Do you agree with Mabbutt?

    http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...usive-mabbutt-spurs-must-sell-modric-and-move
     
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  7. Hollingydale

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    Fabregas is also not the sort of player to have a tantrum, yet look how poorly he played last season. He had one of his worst seasons in an Arsenal shirt and that was all after the business last summer with Barca. Although it may not look like it Modric's performance probably will be directly influenced by all this drama, regardless of where he ends up.
     
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  9. NSIS

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    Oh well. I mean if no less an authority than Gary Mabbut says we should sell him, then I suppose he'll be off to Chavs next week <doh>. Do try and keep up, there's a good boy. If I were you, I'd spend a bit more time thinking about where fibreglass and Nasri will be playing next year, and a bit less wasting our time telling us what we already know.
     
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  10. NSIS

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    Wrong! Levy never said anything so unequivocal about Berbatov. Besides, the idiot was going on strike, disrupting the entire dressing room, etc. What were we supposed to do? Accept over £30mm or try and convince him to stay with, what was then, nothing more than a mid-table side?
    Modric is a completely different character and would never pull the kind of unproffesional stunts that Berbatov did.
     
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  11. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Well-Known Member

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    And look at Berbatov now, he's on his way out of Man Utd. The grass isn't always greener.

    It's very bad for the game if players can just leave because of one season out of the CL. They don't have a human right to play in it.

    We all know the media love having the same clubs have all the top players/win everything/play in the CL every season but it is very boring and will eventually kill off interest among fans of other teams
     
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  12. NSIS

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    I think Fabregas' performances may have dipped after he realised that the same thing was going to happen that had happened for several years previously. i.e. the now predictable wheels coming off in the last third of the season. Also, Fabregas has been wanting away for quite some time now, but has been talked into, or forced, to stay.
    IMO, Modric will stay another year, if we cannot improve, and match his ambition, the, yes, he will go.
    I suspect that unless you buy, and substantially improve the balance of your squad, Fabregas and Nasri will both leave.
     
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  13. Darren

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    Ambitions take time to reach and in this case they can only be reached in a sustainable fashion by a new stadium. To support the finances required for a top level club. We are restrained by current conditions.

    We have no Champions League football to offer this year, we cannot offer top level wages and we can't break the bank to bring in a top class signing unless their wages are sustainable within our footballing structure. I find it strange that people haven't pointed out that Modric has come out to newspapers and stated the fact that when Levy negotiated his last contract Luka specifically recalled Levy telling him he would consider offers. Now Levy is saying no offers are to be considered?

    Either Levy has reneged on his word, the newspapers are lying (despite there being no denial from player or any other quarter) or he's simply making strongly worded statements to drive up prices. It strikes a very similar scenario to that of the Berbatov sale. To me Levy strikes me as holding out for the best price either by forcing his hand (transfer requests being put in makes a sale becomes feasible) or keeping hold of asset if no offers of suitable level arrive. It is untenable in any realistic sense to keep a player performing at the required level when his head is not there with the focus required for the club and it's targets to be met. Get the best price you can and sell him. There are other targets out there who can grow at our club just like Modric did, with the money obtained we could afford more than one of them.
     
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  14. NSIS

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    Oh do stop wumming, Luke. Modric will not be sold this summer, Levy would lose all credibility were he to do so. Apart from that, until we hear directly from Modric himself, that he's unhappy and wants desperately to move, this is all hearsay. I strongly suspect that Levy is seriously pissed off with the Chavs and that their chances of ever signing Modric are remote.
     
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    Two things Darren. Firstly, unless I have misread the sistuation, Levy is deadly serious this time. I don't believe that he can sell Modric this summer without losing all his credibility. Secondly, I agree about the stadium issue, however,in the near term, if Levy weren't so intransigent over the prices he tries to obtain for our "dead wood", he would have a lot more money available to increase the wages of our top players.
     
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  16. Darren

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    If the player hands in a transfer request and shows an unwillingness to play, although I don't expect Modric to do this do you think it's unfeasible that suddenly conditions change and the statement given for prior circumstances suddenly becomes more flexible?

    I think it's stupid to keep an unhappy player who's performances will be affected when if a good offer comes in you can spend that money on 2 or more players to strengthen. Looking at this from a purely business point of view. If you have a valuable asset and the value isn't matched by it's output for your company the money becomes the more attractive choice since the value isn't represented under your ownership. We could sign a quality midfield replacement and a decent striker with that money.
     
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  17. NSIS

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    Agreed. However, I believe, despite what Modric has reportedly said, that this is about money more than anything else. I agree that if he really is that unhappy, and is that desperate to be away, then we have to let him go. So far, however, all we have is hearsay. Modric himself has not said anything directly that we know of.
    In my view, also, the underhand campaign, seemingly organised to pry Modric away on the cheap, has failed. I don't believe that the Chavs had any intention of paying what Levy would ask were he prepared to sell Modric. We'll see!
     
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  18. Darren

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    It's hard to think of a like for like replacement so I think a reshuffle may be required. People forget that we have Huddlestone back fit, we have Pienaar and Kranjcar, all creative outlets to play in a similar role even if we don't get someone else in, I'm not saying they're at the same level because if they were they'd be playing instead of him but it's not like there is going to be a huge gap if he goes. We'll miss him no doubt but with 40 million in the bank is it impossible to get someone else in?

    As for targets to fill a similar role there are many of decent quality, some of them I would expect to turn us down outright but I think there would be one or two willing to take a chance on our club.

    Some share different attributes with the first two being less mobile but with the ability to pick a pass. Milan Badelj, Keisuke Honda, Marek Hamsik, Eden Hazard straight from the top of my head, not one of them would cost the same amount but wages might be a struggle. If you're reshaping the team somewhat you could fit someone with attributes similar to Moussa Sissoko in the team, we were linked to him multiple times in the past. A box to box midfielder paired with Sandro would be quite formidable with VDV ahead of them. You'd have power, pace, height and stability in the center. The lower quality you go the more risk you have to take that they'll reach the standard we need but we're a club needing to take chances to progress. We can't compete financially and it's a lost game if we try.

    With the right scouting and good coaches you don't always need to buy stars, Arsenal for instance stay strong through this method, they're not at the very top yet because they don't have the balance right but they're a step or two ahead of us certainly in terms of player development.
     
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  19. Teddy's First Touch

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    "Modric is a completely different character and would never pull the kind of unproffesional stunts that Berbatov did. "
    This is what we sincerely hope. Why did he choose to talk to the English press from his holiday boat though?
     
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  20. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

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    We heard the whole sell and use the money to improve when Berbatov was sold

    It is a waste of time if the players are going to be tapped up
     
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