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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by The Raging Oxter, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Mick

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    Fair enough, so why does black managers being under-represented equal discrimination, and black players being over-represented not equal discrimination?

    How did you decide that the deciding factor keeping black managers down was oppression, but (quite rightly) acknowledge that there any many factors making black players over represented?
     
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  2. The Raging Oxter

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    How are black players over-represented?
     
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  3. Toby

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    Because footballers have more of a chance of representing their skills, there's 22 on a field + subs + highlights etc. A manager's work is often done behind the scenes, and you need to have a lot of confidence in the person you're employing without gambling. You can't substitute a manager half way through a match, etc...

    I don't believe in forcing quotas or promoting people that aren't good at their job, the best people for a position should get it. If you have no experience, it's quite hard to get your foot in the door.
     
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    Let Mick slowly realise how stupid his argument is. It'll sink in soon <ok>
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24702729

    Over 30% of young players coming through are of African descent http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24702729 while just under 10% of the population are.

    My point is that they are not coming through because of discrimination against whites, they are coming through because some other variables obviously make them better than the average person (or else it would evidently be 10% back, 90% other).

    I'm not against equality, I'm against blaming inequality on things like discrimination when discrimination isn't actually the cause of every single difference we find between humans.
     
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  6. The Raging Oxter

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    If you had to employ one of two people and one was white and one was black and they were both equally qualified which one would you choose Mick?

    Be honest.
     
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    Never mind the boardroom.

    We need some burds on the GC board for starters. Since Edge stopped posting as Tina it's been substandard.
     
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  8. Mick

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    I'd employ the person I believe will make me the most money. I have a lot of bias in my head, no doubt - but it's not a racial bias (in fact it's a pro-Irish nationalist and socialist bias - which took me a long time to think myself away from, and I'm still not fully there).
     
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  9. The Raging Oxter

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    Stop avoiding the question. White or black?

    Be honest.
     
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    I'd employ them both part-time.
     
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    The honky all the time.

    Less chance of being a thief and murderer.
     
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  12. EDGE.

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    No, you're about 1m miles away from it you thick xenophobic sectarian bigot.
     
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  13. Mick

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    Your question is pointless, no two humans are exactly the same. I've taken dozens of interviews - the single biggest variable I look for is intelligence, the second biggest variable is willingness to learn - colour of skin is not a variable I take into consideration, so when faced with two equally qualified people of different skin colours my decision would be reduced to lesser variables, such as how happy the person seems during the interview (or if it's a woman how good looking she is :bandit:). If it was a foreign person who could barely speak English I might make that a strike against them because of practicalities, but not because of something as silly as skin pigmentation.
     
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    Probably the one that hates "H*ns" the most.
     
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  15. Mick

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    You're damn right.
     
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  16. The Raging Oxter

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    So the white guy then.
     
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    Where did he say that?
     
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  18. The Raging Oxter

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    We're on a site run by a bloke who happily allows blatant racism on a daily basis from old bigots like ER and Venom. Fuck knows why Bealy puts up with it.
     
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    This <ok>
     
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  20. Toby

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    No ST, that's just banter <doh>
     
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