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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm afraid I am not able to reveal the names of the members of the FA who attended the meeting, so I can't reveal who requested it, but passing the details to three people who are subject to a confidentiality agreement, is rather different to publishing them.
     
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  2. Altrincham Tiger

    Altrincham Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Great effort! I like this. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Oh right. So discussing it in public is bad then eh?

    So something you agreed to not share with anyone else, was shared with someone else, in a meeting you agreed not to talk about, discussing things you agreed to not talk about that we're talking about now?

    Rather than saying you're surprised AIRawdah has mentioned it, why not say exactly how you feel? Let down? Disappointed? ****ing annoyed?
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Nothing that was discussed in the meeting with the FA has been discussed on here, I know you're desperate to find fault with CTWD, but your clutching at straws here.

    Though I think it would have been better not mentioned, it's hardly the end of the world and I'm not annoyed at all.
     
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  5. swftiger

    swftiger Well-Known Member

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    Olm. Don't you feel sometimes,perhaps all the time. like banging your head against a brickwall responding to Happy Clapper and Madhog?
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I offered to represent not606 within CTWD, so I'm happy to take the rough with the smooth if any posters want to question what we're doing.

    Even if they don't believe a word I say and come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories. <laugh>
     
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  7. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Happy Clapper and Madhog? Its not two accounts numbnuts, its my original name on here and my previous one to be inclusive with all our fans. I am now Happy Tiger, another statement. You probably wouldn't be interested in knowing where the name Madhog came from so I don't bore you with that. Well done on discovering the "Previous usernames" tab too. I won't be messing with you, you're as sharp as a knife.

    I aint clutching at anything. We're discussing the fact you handed over minutes of that meeting to the FA.

    Unless I've been misled by you (for "you" here, read "CTWD"), and it's always possible I'm wrong, as unlikely as that is but...

    1. CTWD have continually stated it is just about the name change, and that you'd rather Dr Allam stay at the club
    2. You've gone as far to state you back Dr Allam, and don't wish to undermine him
    3. You have further stated that you did not release the minutes/notes of that meeting because of the harm it would do to Dr Allam. Asked continually by some of your supporters in fact.
    4. You've said you want to work with Dr Allam but he doesn't want to talk to you, but this is all his fault, not yours. Hes the one who's mental and doesn't like being told what to do etc

    It now transpires that you, after the original presentation, went back to the FA and discussed that meeting with the FA. You also offered them (were asked, same thing, you told them about them, they asked for them) the very minutes of that meeting, that you'd been told not to release to anyone, fully in the knowledge it would undermine Dr Allam.

    How the **** can you continue to peddle the lie that you support him and are not working against him in anything other than the name change? You knew full well the implications of handing those minutes over, which explains why you never announced it, despite the fact everytime someone on the committee has a brain wave, we all get to read about it. I'd suggest that if it was discussed by you lot, a decision was made to keep that extra meeting and its full contents out of the public domain because you knew full well how it would make you all look.

    Is it really any wonder he doesn't want to talk to you?

    I'd appreciate some type of official and honest (if possible) response to this, not some dismissive crap about bonkers conspiracy theories. If I've made any mistakes above, feel free to enlighten me, but there is absolutely nothing made up there and you know it.
     
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  8. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Happy - what exactly is the problem with these notes being disclosed to the FA?

    Whatever is in there that Allam doesn't want people to find out - he said it and should be held responsible for it like anyone else. Why should CTWD, or anyone else, have to cover for him all the time when he's talking so much **** and saying such inappropriate things?

    You were outraged that CTWD asked him not to produce a bent poll, now you're outraged that CTWD shared with the FA details of some dodgy stuff he's said. Your argument seems to be that he should be allowed to be as much of a cheating, dodgy **** as he wants and no one should question him and in fact should make an effort to cover up his bullshit. What the ****?

    The fact he's relying on people not finding out what he's said and done, and on a poll worded specifically in the way that gives him the best possible chance of hearing what he wants to hear, tells you all you need to know about the man. He's a complete and utter conman yet you get aggressive at people who question his crap. It's sickening.

    You even stated in that post that CTWD think "he's mental and doesn't like being told what to do etc" and implied that this isn't the case. You're not saying you still think he isn't mental or that he is open to being told what do are you? If so is there anything he could possibly do that would change your mind on that?
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It is just about the name change and I'm happy for AA to remain our owner.

    I haven't said the minutes weren't released because they would harm AA, I said we didn't release them because they could damage the club.

    I don't really know why AA got the hump with us, he was perfectly happy at the end of the meeting and said he was happy to meet us again. He then complained about what we released to the press, but it was exactly what we agreed before we left the room.

    The meeting with AA was clearly mentioned in our written submission to the FA(available to view on our website) and after the meeting at Wembley, they asked for all details we had on this meeting, which after confirmation that they would only be seen by the FA sub-group, we released.

    There have been no lies, just some discussions that we had to keep confidential.
     
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  10. swftiger

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    Where did I say it was two accounts? I was merely pointing out that you have a prolaclitivity for other user names for whatever reason? Glad you didn't bore me with an explanation of why you changed from Madhouse as your new incarnation results in zzzzzzz's
     
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  11. TheCasual

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    What strikes me the most is how can a group of hastily put together volunteers all with other commitments can come a cross so much more professional and dignified then a millionaire successful businessman.
     
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  12. FILEYseadog

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    Serious question..

    Anyone think like I do , the FA made up there own mind about the name change
    What ever Assem Allam or. CTWD said or didn't say ?

    Iv read some right rants and heard some from people who seem to BLAME CTWD for stopping the name change yet I don't think they did

    The FA would have said NO, no matter what either side had said.. IMO .

    Always liked your posts Mr Happy because your opinion is your opinion and that's how it should be.. But time to move on and forget about the name change stuff.

    And don't worry IF AA walks away.....if it happens our new owner just might be our greatest owner ever !

    Also a huge bonus is fans that felt like they would have had stopped going if the name changed happened.....won't have to do that now.

    Brilliant. .
     
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  13. x

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    the fa would always have said no. superficially this is about hull city becoming or not becoming hull tigers. but that's just a veneer. it's about a general principle. it's about more absurd and frequent name changes by ever barmier and possibly fleeting owners messing with the heritage of the main football leagues in england, including the oldest one in the world. it's about drawing a line in the sand. if 100% or even 200% of passholders vote for the change it is not going to happen and it never was going to happen.
     
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    the more i read of your thoughts the more i come to think that you can count your friends on the fingers of no hands.
     
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  15. Muffinthegoat

    Muffinthegoat Well-Known Member

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    No I would not be back. I've stated many times that my team is Hull City. Would you care to answer my question?
     
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  16. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    Sure, no. The colours are sacrosanct. Luckily he knows that, so your hypothetical question is silly. You'd have to be totally bonkers to change a colour scheme like ours.

    If we want to imagine more silly scenarios, if the name of the club was changed such that "Hull" was removed, I would also not support him. That's not likely either.

    City? Sure, it can go. Colours, Hull, no.
     
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  17. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    I have often said the decision will be made in the interests of English football in general and not just what one owner wants. The writing was on the wall after the creation of MK Dons for any serious student of football.

    I think the campaign made it easier for the FA to consider rejecting the application (remember the vote isn't until the 9th of April). That decision would have been much more difficult if 20,000 City fans supported the change. The current ballot confirms that there is no support for the name change. The vast majority of those voting yes are doing so to back Assem Allam, not because they want to be Hull Tigers.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Before getting involved in all this name change bollocks, he did consider changing our kit colours.

    Obviously, he claimed later that he'd never touch the colours or the badge.

    Though the badge is changing for next season.
     
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  19. Hank Scorpio

    Hank Scorpio Well-Known Member

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    If you download it and e-mailed it back to them, are you supposed to get a confirmation saying they've received it.
     
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  20. tigermaul

    tigermaul Well-Known Member

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    Tell us more OLM - colours of the Egyptian flag perhaps? Red? How far along did the kit change idea get?
     
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