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Ole Gunnar Solskjær "I'd take Rooney & RVP over Suarez & Sturridge"

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Matth_2014, Mar 21, 2014.

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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    They are not in this thread discussing this, what have their opinions got to do with it.

    Suarez is world class. Done it last year doing it this year, so how many years does he have to perform given he scored bags in the dutch league too, yep its easier and he made it look easier, international games he scores a few too.

    So if he is not world class even though he's been the best striker in the PL for 2 years now, how exactly does he become world class?
     
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    Have you seen our season? I'll look forward and be positive about our upcoming success under our first foreign manager ever.
     
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    Well you are a united supporter, so me actually supporting the team he plays for, let me explain it, he has dropped deeper and becomes a lot more involved in buildup play, he has 10 assists and most of em came in the last 6 or 7 games. he's adding even more to the team in that respect and he works exceptionally hard every game for the 90 minutes. At some point he has to slack off otherwise at that rate he would have 40 goals if he could keep that rate of scoring up, no one can do that.
     
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    I'll give you that, under Woy all I looked forward to was the following season :D
     
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    For Matth

    RvP 11 goals 3 assists 0.46
    Rooney 11 goals 10 assists 0.33
    22 goals 13 assists

    Daniel Sturridge 18 goals 6 assists 0.72
    Luis Suarez 25 goals 10 assists 0.86
    43 goals 16 assists

    Studge Suarez = Better at everything

    Or Suarez > Rooney+RvP
    R+R 22 goals 13 assists
    Suarez 25 goals 10 assists
     
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  6. King Shergar

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    He was not the best striker last season, RVP won the golden boot, and scored against all the big teams, including at the Etihad, Stamford Bridge, the Emirates, Anfield, and White Hart Lane. If you really believe Suarez scoring 5 away at Norwich compares with RVPs form last season, then you really are in delusion. Though you are a scouser after all, delusion is what you guys do best :biggrin:
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

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    What KS said.

    Rvp also scored a hattrick in our biggest game of tge season. Regardless of the opposition Mr big game did it again.

    Bayern are lucky hes out as weve lost our best chance.
     
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    It doesn't matter if he scores against the other 3 top4 teams or not, his assists and his general play in the lead up to goals is good enough for us, we aren't reliant on only him for match winning goals unlike some of the mid table teams below us.:grin:
     
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  9. King Shergar

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    Please remind me of Liverpools achievements with Suarez in the team? :biggrin:
     
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    Suarez 6 goals in 23 'big 4 Prem games'

    He needs to up that strike rate and will.

    Roon and rvp have scored crucial title-deciding goals.

    When Suarez and Studge do that, this season or next, and score hat-tricks in CL games then they will be world class.

    They have the talent, they are just held back by playing for a club of Liverpool's recent stature. When they have had a few seasons in CL and title run-ins then we can judge them
     
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    So now we're talking about the team and not the individual?
     
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    RvP got most goals, even the sheep matth shags know Suarez was the best striker in the league last season.
     
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    So, now it's who you score them against or if you are in the CL or as has been said, where you are in the league, playing brilliantly and being recognised by anyone with a brain as being world class doesn't matter to a wum chav's reckoning, stone the crows!
     
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    Nope we can judge them now not when you say and use basic football knowledge

    You dont have to score to have a good game as a striker if you're setting them up, pulling defenders all over the place and creating space. That is very simple basic football knowledge, if you've been to see has many games as you say and you're old as you say then surely you should know this

    You can clearly see the chemistry between SAS and that it doesnt look quite right atm for the Utd pair


    This season only a wum would honestly prefer Utds pair to ours
     
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    Was he **** <laugh>
     
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    Football is a team sport.

    RVP's goals v City and Chelsea etc won United the title making him player of the year.

    If Suarez scores the winners that secure you the title v Chelsea etc then he is a worthy player of the year.

    If Aguero was fit all season City would be walking the league and he would be player of the year.
    He scored big goals under pressure and is a better big game player than Suarez, who is definitely the best flat track bully in the prem
     
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    To dispatch Norwich yes, I would take SAS.

    To take on Barca and Bayern, I would go with RAR
     
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    And there you have it. A great argument put forward by UIR. Even players voted Suarez ahead of RvP, the same players that played against both.
    But it is very debatable at least. They are close in terms of scoring goals but Suarez gives more assists and offers more in attack.

    Robin has 12 assists since joining United.

    RvP has 0.51 ratio in the PL total. Suarez 0.66. Suarez is actually improving his goal to games ratio. RvP is not going to get any better tbh.
     
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    Didn't Rooney take on Barca and get told off by Fergie in front of how many millions in the last CL final they met in for being a useless lazy ****? Also didn't they get tonked 2 0 in the final v barca before that? Your logic is flawed but then again you are EC after all.
     
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