The last tv item I saw interviewed people leaving the ticket office. Most of the ones they showed said they were not against the name change.
Why don't the pro name changers join a group to clear it up? They don't seem to think it's important enough to campaign for it. There's a few people on here and on facebook and talking to friends along with the Allams. It would appear that many more are against the name change in Hull, the country and the rest of the world. Are you saying that the widespread ridicule the idea generates is unfair?
Maybe they got that impression from the 16,000 who signed the petition, or the fact that every single poll gave a resounding rejection of a name change?
It would be nice if some folk could be reminded that 15000 people signed the petition against the name change. Not 2000.
Because in our owners view it will strengthen our club over time. I happen to agree with him. If you don't try to improve you will not. I want us to explore every channel that might make our club bigger and stronger.
You've just contradicted yourself. Why do you agree with him? On what basis? Why do you mention "improving" in connection with being renamed Hull Tigers? Is that an improvement? In what way? How have they "explored" this channel? Mr Allam said he would research the possible effects of the name change and then did no such thing. How do you think he has "explored" this avenue? He hasn't, has he? Why do you say you agree that it will strengthen our club when you've just said nobody outside of our fanbase will care? Have you got the faintest clue what you're talking about?
You can't do everything because a lot are contradictory. The FA subcommittee appeared to think there was no business case for changing the name. Do you disagree with them?
The name-change argument has run it's course, the question over the integrity of the owners is on its warm-up lap. The owners will try and return to the name-change, any opposed to their leadership style should attack that. No insults are required to achieve that, just plain fact, intelligent questions and a strongly held position of no-nonsense, focussing on the point of honesty. I would suggest the time is coming to turn that same level of attention on HCC, help them get those splinters out of their collective backsides. CTWD - use your media contacts to totally disassociate your group from any future 'supporters-group' initiative. Emphasise it would not be part and parcel of CTWD activity or branding. None is viable while these owners have control and CTWD will (should) become defunct when they sell-up. Keep it an absolute, in terms of being a single issue (it always should have been). Use the history of the name-change timeline and its events: rebranding by stealth, misinformation to other clubs, evasive press releases, direct lies when confronted, broken promises, crazy accusations and claims against other bodies - but emphasise the Terry Geraghty HDM interview that was profoundly condemning and amazingly uncontested. Get to the core of the argument, the stadium and its development opportunities the name as been ransomed against; the Allams can either leave or get a serious dose of contrition on this journey - you play that accordingly. Done correctly, you will be doing two things: Showing this or any future owner that there is a real benefit in working with a support base that has won huge admiration internationally. Raise to a level of no-nonsense discussion the whole KC Stadium development question; it's a public amenity, so make it a public question.
15k-16k ..... who? Just Hull City fans? Verified all unique votes? Its true that the press and the other clubs fans don't really care about us too, if something else came along that caught their eye, we'd be back to people moaning about the lack of reporting on us. For the press it's a great story, it has made up heroes and made up villains, it has sob stories and tales of hope and struggling through adversity. They'll never let the facts get in the way of a good story as you all well know.
Most of that is what CTWD have done (very, very well). Why don't you start your own group, or a blog to campaign in a way you think would work better?
The people who shout the loudest get heard. The petition will be made up of fans from other clubs who are sympathetic to your cause. Again who are influenced by the media. I look forward to the vote. If those against come out on top then thats fine. I will accept that. I still fear that it will push out our owners though and that may put our club in a weakened position. The worst case scenario depending on the outcomes of this are potentially much worse if the our owner pulls out his backing.
So the FA were influenced more by other matters, and not the press? Matters that protected the integrity of the game and the Association?
