Silly question, mate. Kinda like comparing 2001 milk to fresh milk powder. Colin's Sell-By-Date expired years ago. The chap had lost the plot by the time he arrived at Elland Road. His record at Leeds speaks for itself.
Because you haven't got an answer, you cannot tell me where McDermott has done better, I find these cop outs annoying, you are quick to mention Spec Savers but you can't back up your opinion as to where McDermott has done any better??? For the record I hated Warnock, I am now hating McDermott as he is NO BETTER and he HAS NOT HAD TO SELL a player and HE HAS BEEN BACKED with his signings and loans, something Warnock wasn't Warnock: Games 63 Won 23 Drawn 15 Lost 25 Win Percentage - 36.5 ------------------------------------ McDermott Games 44 Won 17 Drawn 8 Lost 19 Win Percentage 36.3 (please note Wiki doesn't have the last defeat in the stats yet) --------------------------------------------- Try telling me we are not going to lose more than 6 games in the next 19 games - Warnock lost 25 was undefeated 38 times. McDermott lost 19 undefeated 25 times.
Ristac, you've got to remember that Warnock sold our top scorer for a bag of shyte. This was a watershed moment. If you want a true picture, statistically, then check out Warnock's record after he gave away Becchio, and compare that to BM's record. BM saved us from almost certain relegation under Warnock. We're not that bad this year. Also bear in mind the work that BM has done behind the scenes at TA etc., which Colin ignored. I'm not supporting BM's case, btw, just trying to apply some logic to your statistical comparison.
I appreciate that, again I think both are as useless as a chocolate teapot. Warnock would argue that Becchio was going to be sold by Bates and that the swap deal was his only way of getting a replacement. At present we are on relegation form, the Morrison swap was awful I agree totally but again this was more Warnock not being backed and running out of time with the take over saga. Again bad management but Warnock knew he was in for one season, equal to McDermott not knowing his best formation, best starting 11 and playing formations that nobody understands. McDermott has been backed more than Warnock and Grayson, no way would either of the previous managers have been able to sign Murphy and Wootton or held on to Ross. All I am saying is Mcdermott is NOT MUCH BETTER than Warnock
Have to agree with your final comment, Ristac. Something that just occurred to me which is pertinent to your comparison - I think it's the undeniable case that since Bates took over, it has become harder & harder for a manager to manage. Our best players keep getting sold, and replaced by poorer quality, meaning our team has got cumulatively (some might say exponentially!) worse. I think it is very difficult to compare managers on the basis that each succeeding manager inherits a bigger & stinkier bag of shyte than the previous manager. So my question is - how good, for example, would BM have been with Grayson's squad, and conversely, how good would Grayson be with the present squad? Make sense? Btw Ristac, you coming up for the meet up on Saturday?
@Whitejock Would have liked to have been there but snowed under with work at the moment, I shouldn't complain though, there have been times where it has been worryingly quiet Grayson was probably the best, he just couldn't see that we were a decent defence short of certain promotion. I am often left scratching my head in amazement and wondering about both players and managers. When you look at some of our loans and how poor they did compared to how good they are now and players who should be performing better. I do believe that sometimes clubs are just very lucky with the perfect combination of players and manager arriving at the same time to create a perfect blend. Warnock to a major extent and McDermott's to a degree are at fault for trying to recreate what worked at another club, they tried to recreate their past with Leeds United relying on their own tried and tested players. I believe McDermott thought he was going to get 20 goals out of Hunt, his ability to find a goal scorer other than Ross has been a major issue and reason for the chopping and changing, I think so anyway.
I think he knew about the defence, just couldn't afford to buy a good one without selling his forward line. Private jets to pay for and that, you know how it is
I think having an absolute ****ing clown come in and try and buy the club when he's awaiting trial for fraud, then trying to sack the manager, put players into the squad that aren't eligible to play, then do countless other things that set off alarm bells has destabilised the squad. The other option, according to the media, is administration. That's enough to unnerve anyone. Bringing in 4 players has nothing to do with it, that's what you have to do when you're rebuilding a squad. The stability comes later, which is why people need to be patient and give Brian time.
They're all ****ing bent, they don't become millionaires being Mr nice guy, even Branson has admitted he "bent " the rules a bit.
But it will be seen as tax dodging, which is one of the biggest no-no's when it comes to the FL, as it leads to administrations I can see where they are coming from, I hope there is an alternative around the corner who will bring some real stability. Problem wih stability is that it means being stable for a while - whereas what many people on here demand is someone with rocket fuel. It won;t happen overnight and everyone knew the plan was to stabilise and build from within and that this season would be nothing but that We are achieving that on the pitch - shame it's turmoil off it
You HOPE there is an altenative around the corner!!! We are achieving stabilty on the pitch? Yeah we lose alot?
I do hope so - someone who will just settle things down and we could have nothing off-the-pitch to talk about for a long while. On the pitch - I'm looking at the whole season, not a third of it . The final placing is what matters.
Well I reckon someone who's incapable of filing their taxes properly isn't fit to run a football club, but that's just me.
Anything mid-table is "safe" by me, allowing us to look at next year. I would prefer to see the team gelling and at least playing good football and working for each other and picking up occasional victories or points - did it v Huddersfield, v Leicester, and showed some character at Burnley, but just rolling over v Wednesday, Bolton, Reading was hard to take. Who's to say we will finish lower than 12th though? We always have a blip at this time of year, always have had, only a handful of times in the last 40 years where we have gained more points in the second half ot the season than the first. Millwall on Saturday will hopefully provide the start of a comfortable mid-table finish, by playing well and getting 3 points on the board. 50 points should be safety this year
