They interceded because of the usual blackmail threat that Allams words contain. They are yet again a way of scaring supporters and they continually do it with their ranting and raving. Some of you lot have short memories if you cant remember what he has said on a good few occasions in the past. Does hooligans, you can die if you want to etc bring back any memories?
Supporters Trust?!?! I wouldn't trust some of our supporters to sit the right way round on a toilet, never mind run even the smallest element of the club operations.
No, nice attempt at manipulation of the truth, but that is bollocks. They are putting pressure on the club by dictating what the question(s) should be, without any idea of what the Allams were going to poll in any case. It's a fine distinction but for those of us without CTWD blinkers on, blindingly obvious. CTWD from that press release see's themselves as on equal terms as the Allams as a minimum, with the ear of the FA, and think they are the ones who should have ultimate veto or sanction on anything coming from the club. It's pitiful and also quite more than a little spiteful and absolutely shows contempt and no respect for the owners. Tigers40...go away. You don't even know the name of the group you're allegedly a member of. CTID? Gol...the whole point is it is for the Allams to decide what to ask, not you, not I and certainly not CTWD. The decision to apply for the name change was rushed forward due to TFT, removing the decision from the owners, now CTWD is doing exactly the same thing with the poll. The poll that will not affect the FA decision. CTWD are dictating to the owners what the poll should ask. I can't understand why some of you don't see that as just utterly despicable and low and clearly designed to provoke a reaction. I bet the next presser is already primed and ready to go and will have an element of victim syndrome in it. Who could honestly blame them if they think "sod this, we're off", which would be a massive disaster for us fans, and would be 100% the responsibility of CTWD.
You seem to be responding to me, which would tell me you have either been living in extreme isolation of my posts or you are very dum. For the record, I think a retrospective view would have served them better, as the owners will be mad to include the name as a question. Their (CTWD) statement is both gratuitous and weak, as it incorporates something only the FA will decide upon (which is why CTWD had maintained their silence previously, so why change at this point?) and they have constantly advocated support for the owners, so no need to mention it again. A dignified silence should have prevailed.
Not really. The daft sod started all this. We just stood up for ourselves. The FA didn't have CTWD in conference when they vetoed the Allams this week. Take as it is. Their ideas were f**kin awful and deserves rejection. He takes full responsibility if it fails, & walking away is him being a further petulant w**ker.
That's why you'd vote people into the key positions. Can you justify any of this? The statement is positive and simply 'calls' for the club to conduct the poll fairly. Where are you getting this air of authority from, cos it certainly isn't in that statement? Even if it was, that'd be arrogance at worst. It wouldn't be the despicable low you're making it out to be. You sound like you're just looking for something to be offended by. The poll is the club's and they will conduct it how they like, but many fans have concerns over the wording, as demonstrated by Leon's recent thread where almost 90% (the last time I checked) had voted that they expected an unfair poll. CTWD are just using their collective voice to try and prevent the fans' fears from materialising. They probably know it's unlikely to work but they're trying nonetheless. I actually agreed with your recent post that if they wanted to, the owners could make the poll completely separate to the name change and a simple vote of confidence in their ownership. It's sad that even they seem to acknowledge this vote is required, but welcome all the same. If they want to leave the name change out completely then I won't mind too much. The issue that I, and it seems many people, have is that the club are looking like trying to combine the two issues into one poll and get the outcome they desire. By scaring people into thinking they'll leave and we'll be in League 2 overnight if they vote 'no' they'll hope to get a majority 'yes' vote. They should either ask the single 'confidence in the owners' question which you proposed or they should ask both. If they only ask about the name change then there is a risk that their recent threats will tarnish the vote by scaring people into voting 'yes'. You appear to have the same attitude as Ehab; that of complete scorn for anyone who dares to question the mighty Allam authority. They clearly want a total dictatorship where the fans pay their money and the owners spend it all on ****ing us over however they like. I don't understand how any fan can be so supportive of that, and so against any attempt to question them or reason with them.
The club are obviously not going to ask the questions we've suggested, you can't really be stupid enough to think that we've suggested them with a realistic expectation that they'd be implemented. We have a reasonable idea of what was being proposed, we hope that today's exposure will get that proposition reviewed, as we want an honest vote on the name change, I thought you silent majority would want the same?
If the Allams can say: There's no need to have a vote, Nobody will question them, and then Arrange a vote after being told the recommendation is against the name change Then why would anybody think they are capable of asking sensible question(s) in a ballot?
Erm its obvious why you suggested those questions, I've said as much. You clearly KNOW they won't be implemented, so then you can claim afterwards the poll is unfair/you're the victims of the Evil Allams (not that you're making it personal of course, as stated in your FAQs). You have a reasonable idea of the questions? Do you really? Based on what? You have an insider or you're just guessing? Yet more deceitful manipulation. You really don't see it either. or at least I hope that's it, because the alternative is you're doing this on purpose which would make me sad. Why do you want an honest vote on the name change? To what end? It won't impact the FA decision. Personally no, I don't want a poll at all, you already know that, but if we had to have one, I'd rather it was just a vote of confidence, but I also wouldn't presume to demand that's what the Allams give me, which is exactly what you've done. Even though you know they won't. ****ing hell, you lot would give Max Clifford a run for his money.
Christ on a ****ing bike. All everybody wants is a fair and reasonable poll which focuses on the main issue in question and doesn't try and muddy the waters. Take it for what it is and stop searching for hidden agendas.
What CTWD want, is for this to end now and us all move forward together and enjoy the rest of season. What the Allam's want, is to try and engineer a vote result that gives them a chance of challenging the FA decision. No doubt you'll dismiss this as scaremongering, or some such, but I'm afraid it's true. Just as it was true when I told you AA was planning to change our name to Hull Tigers(which you also dismissed).
Isn't it sensible to give advice on the logical voting questions if there is going to be a vote? The Allam's obviously need help to stop them messing up. You make out that there's no wider interest than the Allam family. Are you saying that fans should have no interest in the vote? If they have an interest in a vote isn't it better if everything is thought through so there's no confusion when the papers are sent out?
Ultimately folks, we all want the club to be a success and we know we can achieve this without altering the club name. It's sad how Allam's stubbornness and petulance have divided us in what should be a memorable season for us on the pitch.
Not that CTWD need advice, but personally I think the campaign surrounding the ballot must be conducted using the simplest language possible: simple instructive sentences; basically brief to the point facts all leading to one message. Why? Well, it’s clear, that so far, rational and intelligent people do not need convincing. Read the HDM comments for example, the few on here or the ‘funny if it wasn’t painful’ clochards that ring up Radio Humberside. Some people are confused and scared, and some have been whipped into a frenzy by the regime’s lies. Unfortunately, people do buy into their stupid remarks. A heard one call on RH last night, fellow sounded fairly coherent. Said that 'it's been proved that a name change works cos Newton Heath changed their name to Manchester United.' No doubt, there'll been a few nodding or even ranting in agreement. Keep the message simple, short and sweet then maybe you'll access these numbskulls.
Here's an idea - at 19.04 sing city till I die and at 20.14 sing Allams black and amber army - thereby supporting our heritage and our owners
