As we continue our slide down out of play off contention, I am just trying to temper my emotions by looking at the list of players who were unable to start against Wed last night: Green Simpson Faurlin Phillips Traore Austin BAE Jenas There is no club anywhere that would cope well with having arguably at least half of their starting 11 out injured. Ok.............I can't get the thought out of my head that Harry and the dinosaurs are responsible for some of these, with out-dated training etc, but Green's cracked ribs, Phillip's awkward fall, Faurlin's continued tragic run of injuries and Charlie landing on his shoulder are surely just very bad luck? Losing Charlie especially has really knackered us. I'm not sure the blame can all be laid at the door of Harry and Tony eh?
I have to agree. I think you could add to that list AJ. After last night's performance don't be surprised if today it's announced that Hoilett and Zamora have picked up injuries. Zamora could hardly jog for the last 20 mins or maybe he just couldn't be ar***d. That's why we need young, fit & healthy players. Harry has to take his share of the blame for persistent hamstring injuries and for loading us up with old crocs.
All fair points Col but even when they were all fit we were still playing sh•te. We won several of our early games by pure luck. We have no style, no set pattern. Our players don't work hard enough on and off the ball. We don't press the opposition high enough up the pitch forcing mistakes. We have had a steady back four or five all season but we've hardly put out the same midfield in the same formation all season even when for long periods everybody was fit. I honestly believe that Harry still doesn't know his best 11 and best formation. He's made a Bol•ox of this. Harry and his staff are paid to get these players playing. IMO they've been found wanting.
I have to go with NUTs on this one Col yes injuries have played a massive part in own demise, but thats why we are supposed to have back up for each position lI watched Leicester the other day, and they had injuries to Dyer, Koncheski and another, so they brought in the replacements. They are better than the players that they have replaced. raheem or what ever his name is is brilliant (in this league0 after all our spend..why dont we have that back up?!
Part of the reason I've not really slated Harry, the training isn't to blame. The recuritment is. Phil Beard should check the injury record of everyone the manager wants and have a formula of reliability, eg games injured v games played v games available, then only if they pass muster do we sign. If not, Sorry Harry go try again. Part of the no football brains issue, but while we are in the play offs moaning too much isn't going to help things. My rational this week. Lets all have a moan in June, it doesn't make any difference now. Edit: Players should want to play for us, after last seasons fiasco I'm amazed we made any signings at all this year.
Redknapp chooses the players, of course he's to blame. He's also the one who chose the coaches who don't stop us picking up 2 new injuries every week. Of course TF and beard are at fault for trusting managers too much as well.
People really need to stop being so damn negative. Until last week when Ings got injured, between Leicester and Burnley they'd had no injuries to speak of, we've lost the whole first team for sizeable chunks of the season. I'm not trying to paper over any cracks here, just pointing out the facts. We may not have been playing that great at the start of the season, but we were top and winning nearly every game, that is all that mattered. Performances come with a settled team that you can pick week in week out, but due to injuries we just haven't been able to do. I would love to see all these arm chair managers do a better job given the circumstances. If people would stop listening to all the moaning and put things in to perspective they'd enjoy watching our team a lot more. If anyone thinks that even our worst performance this season comes close to some of the football I've seen at Loftus Road over the last 40 years, think again. Some people are just looking at the here and now, looking at all the negative and none of the positive stuff. We've been forced in to buying players at the last minute due to Tango and Cash sabotaging out promotion, unfortunately it hasn't worked, but we are building a state of the art training academy so with time we will start to produce talent instead of taking risks in buying it. We're a small club cause no owner has invested in a new stadium, but that too is coming. In the past we've had owners that would cash in the second one of our players became a known talent, not anymore. We're building for a bright future, but that doesn't happen over night. Put things in to perspective instead of focusing on the here and now and maybe you'll stop stressing so much. Negativity builds from the fans and filters on to the pitch. As fans we can be the 12th man or the final nail in the coffin. Would we have gained automatic promotion without the injuries? I think yes we probably would have scrapped it. Will we make the play-offs? Not if so many fans keep going in to meltdown and criticising everything that is going on at the club. We need to pull together and support the team come what may, then hopefully we will still get promoted. But for gawds sake, please put things in to perspective, cause so many are turning in to Flyer mark II, III, IV etc.
Answer this then Lone- Who has Harry brought in to replace Damian Roden as the head of âSports Science and Medicalâ- (a leading expert in this field)? He resigned in March 2013 Extract from West London sport defines his role in part as; âRodenâs job is to oversee the treatment of injured players but, more importantly, to try to prevent injuries in the first placeâ http://www.westlondonsport.com/features-comment/explaining-the3-changes-at16-qpr Harry is a football dinosaur and he doesnât know this side of the modern game. Combine this with old and injury prone players and you could see it coming. Simpson played on for weeks making his injury worse resulting in what has happened with him as one example of his mismanagement. We started the season with 3 strikers â Austin- arrived having failed a medical- and anyone watching the tunnel cam early in the season would have seen Austinâs heavilybandaged shoulder all season. (aware it was his knee he failed on atg Hull) AJ and BZ- self explanatory To call him a ****ing idiot is too kind
I can't give you the names and addresses of our physios, but I'm pretty sure we have them. And if you base everything on news from West London sports then you'll always have a negative look on the club because that's all David McIntyre writes, he won't write about anything positive at the club. And as for someone resigning, is that Harry's fault? Is he in charge of staff recruitment? Would he know the difference between a good physio and a bad one? I doubt it, so I very much doubt it has anything to do with him. I'm not trying to defend anyone here, I"m just pointing out that some fans are just plain suicidal for what? We've still got a good chance of going up in the play-offs, when most people were crying that we would do a Wolves at the beginning of the year, so does that not mean we're having a pretty good season? You can condemn everything you want, but to believe that we are in a **** position is laughable. Look at the club as a whole and not pick out some stupid article about one single member of the back room staff. Rednapp himself said he wasn't happy that we weren't able to bring in another striker at the beginning of the season, that isn't his fault, other than maybe his targets were just too high in calibre for our position at the time.
I'm pretty sure he chose his assistant manager and coaches to why wouldn't he say he wanted another person in that role? Because he's a dinosaur who probably believes players should eat steak and chips before a match.
Oh look, the fountain of all knowledge pipes up. Do you know what is going on inside the club Flyer? I doubt it any more than the rest of us, so stop making assumptions and deal in facts for a change. And it is normal for a manager to choose the coaches, but who's ever heard of a manager bringing in physios and doctors?
Doyle, not sure if I spotted anyone mention him above? He's definitely our #2 striker after Austin, and he's out too.
Some balance at last Lone..thank you. If you listen to some people Harry makes every decision the club makes. Despite everything that has not been good are we a club whos future is better now than it was 4/5 years ago? do we have a board who care and want to make it work? is the long term infrastructure looking good? fans criticise chairmen for getting involved with footballing decisions and rightly so. TF has backed his managers, what more can he do. Im sure if we go back to the days when the likes of Hart etc were at the club, would we have ever believed that someone like Rednapp/Hughes would want to manage our little club? No its not great at the moment but the level a histeria seems out of proportion to me.
It’s not that he’s a physio- football is moved passed the magic sponge man. He lays out the training and nutrition programme for the players. No body has taken on this role I quoted a statement of fact that he was appointed to this role. Not sure how that leaves room for Dave McIntyre negativity to distort anything. Is it his fault for resigning? Yes actually it is. I know from someone inside the club that he resigned in the trigger was a mixture of the players approach and attiude in Dubai mid-season last year not entirely his fault as they were Hughes’ signings mainly and his insistence to keep playing BZ while injured and the long term damage this was/has caused him. And to me Redknapp was always going to be too old fashioned to adopt, listen to or incorporate his ideas. Redknapp had this same problem repeatedly in his Spurs days come this time of the year because he doesnt understand sports science Mark Hughes, Sam Allardyce, Roberto Martinez, Brendan Rogers to name a few
We have Carl Serrant - our fitness and conditioning coach - who has been at the club since Warnock brought him in, so I guess the prevention of injuries and nutrition would come under part of his role.
i do wonder about the hardness and grip of our pitch as playing some part as well. it would be interesting to see how many away teams had players who got injured at our place. I was sat up close to the pitch on saturday on there was very little give in the surface.
He is an ex player straight into coaching- he was there during Roden’s time- the role is very different Poor Preparation = Piss Poor Performance
No. Arry is the Manager and has been for about 16 months. Its down to him. Stop. He didn't keep us up, don't look like he'll get us up again, and we played half assed boring football after his first decent month. He should have gone a month ago. There are many Managers I reckon would be doing better with our squad even with the injuries.
Nope as I said Roden’s role was an entirely different role to Serrant’s. Will be some form of input from the physio’s and Serrant but Roden’s role was a unique, niche and specialist position. You need someone in charge in this area. No sign that that has been replaced since he resigned so it’s the Harry’s fault for not putting/keeping in place a proper structure at the club. By this stage of the season the sqad is creaking and breaking down because theybhavent been managed properly from the sports science side of things. Harry has never got this. Knowing he had these same problems previously in his career I just googled: Harry Redknapp Tottenham Injury’ to help prove my point https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=h...j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 Headlines and dates do exactly this: 19 March 2010, ‘Harry Redknapp bemoans injury problems…’ 1 April 2011, ‘Spurs boss Harry bemoans latest injury news’ 21 April 2012, ‘Tottenham have an injury crisis says Harry Redknapp’ That is clear proof he’s not unlucky he’s just incompetent
