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Sol Campbell - England Captain race allegation

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Mr Robert Heenan, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Are we still wasting time talking about that traitorous sack of ****?? He can eat **** and die, for all I care. They are serialising his fantasies in The Sunday Times. I tear out the pages and wipe my arse on them!.
     
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    Its a shame Campbell went the way he did as when at spurs he gave his all on the pitch, never say die attitude and for years played in a hopeless defence which at times he was a man mountain and stopped the opposition on his own. You can't question his passion for the shirt when he was with us but he knows himself that once he decided to make the switch he would never be forgiven.
     
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  3. NSIS

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    For most of us, it wasn't just the fact that he left to join The Goons, of all people, but the sneaky, underhand, dishonest way it was done. He made sure that he got maximum wages for himself, and that the club who nurtured him, got **** all!.

    And he's still lying about it today!...
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    TBH I do not begrudge him that move, even if to the vermin (offensive as it is) .
    Twas the fact that he COST the club transfer revenues, and colluded with the Goons
    to line his pockets with extra wages out of the transfer fees they saved, that damns him
    as an utter c**t.
     
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    Most footballers tend to be sneaky, dishonest and underhand so a player leaving to get the best deal for himself is part of the course in modern day footballer and I'm not going to be too concerned over that aspect we all do whats best for us in life, at work anyway to make sure we're paid the best we can get.

    In other eras it was different and i'm sure there are some players today who aren't money motivated but its rare.
     
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  6. NSIS

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    Bale signed a new contract a year before he left. Even Suarez has signed a new contract, which means that if Real come knocking in the summer, The Mousers will get handsomely paid for him. That piece of **** connived with The Goons to make sure we got SFA!
     
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    Ok but they only signed an extension to a long contract so they get bigger wages from the club until they leave. They are all in it for themselves.

    Campbell got the best deal for himself and for that I don't have an issue.
     
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    We'll, you must be in a minority of one amongst Spurs fans then. I think he could, and should have done the decent thing by the club, but he chose not to.

    And, I don't agree that Bale or Suarez signed extended contracts just to get a few quid more for a short space of time. Both have displayed a basic sense of obligation to the club that gave them their big chance. Campbell stalled, and then misled the club about signing a new contract, probably knowing what he was going to do.
     
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    No one bid for Bale that summer he signed a contract and Suarez only stayed because Real Madrid never went in for him and signed a new contract to receive higher wages. There is no obligation to the club from such players other then to line their own pockets until they leave the club.

    Plus if Bale or Suarez where in the situation of running down a contract, do you honestly think they would sign a contract just so the club gets a transfer fee, out of good will. Of course they wouldn't.

    Campbell, Bale and Suarez all showed passion for the club on the pitch but when it comes down to it, they all care about their individual needs and most footballers all follow the same thinking.
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    Bale did not screw Spurs out of a transfer fee.
    And neither will Suarez if he leaves the Poool and goes wherever.

    I'm willing to read the list of high-profile players who did akin to what Campbell did to Spurs
    (in the name of objectivity) ...
     
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    Yes, I do believe that a number of players have a sense of obligation to the club that nurtured them, and that they are willing to ensure that the club gets fair value when they go. Not all players, granted, but it seems clear to me that Bale and Suarez signed extensions to their contracts knowing exactly why they were being asked to do so.

    The reason Real didn't come for Suarez was because they'd just blown €100mil on a certain Mr Bale. I strongly suspect that, if they don't win La Liga that they will be back for Suarez this summer. I also suspect the both Liverpool and Suarez are aware of that. Hence the extended contract.
     
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    Really, I never knew that!

    But as for contracts, they only signed extensions to receive a higher wage, thats just how it is, you can believe otherwise, but its naive thinking to believe they had any obligation to the club and would think about the possible fee the club will receive for their services.
     
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    We will agree to disagree. However, Campbell did to Spurs what very few players have done to their clubs. He basically lied. He continually stalled over signing a new contract, despite claiming that he was going to. He knew full well what he was up to! As far as I, and the vast majority of Spurs fans are concerned, he's a two faced, deceitful, deluded sack of ****e. If I saw him crossing the road, I'm not sure that I could resist the temptation to hit the accelerator.
     
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    Hey NSIS, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to praise Campbell or disagree with your assertion of him as you're right, he knew what he was doing, I just personally take the view that all modern day footballers are in it for themselves and the stringing along wasn't a major issue as he still gave his all on the pitch. It wasn't until the very last remaining games if I remember that he started to look as if he wanted to be elsewhere.

    Campbell the player I admired but Campbell the person I have no time for after leaving us for the gooners and hearing the recent crap he has come out with!
     
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    Some blame has to lie with whoever was dealing with the contract though. Who allows a player of that quality to run down their contract. Even Arsenal sold RVP to United rather than lose him for nothing.

    Some mentioned an example of another player who has done similar. Perhaps Lewandowski? He never said he'd sign an extension but has also run down his contract to leave for Dortmund's biggest rival. He could have signed an extension and got Dortmund a massive fee when they sold him but didn't.
     
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    "We will agree to disagree. However, Campbell did to Spurs what very few players have done to their clubs."

    Well at least wait for the list I spoke of, to be compiled and presented before saying that ... ;)
     
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    "Who allows a player of that quality to run down their contract."

    A club who takes their playing staff at their word ??
     
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    Yes, it was naive of the club. Although I doubt that anybody suspected Judas would do what he did. He continually indicated that he was going to sign - the club naively believed him, and the next thing we know is he pops up sitting next to Whinger!...
     
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    "Yes, it was naive of the club. Although I doubt that anybody suspected Judas would do what he did.
    He continually indicated that he was going to sign - the club naively believed him"

    And Levy has since become what an esteemed colleague of mine calls the "you can only do it to me once" .
    For the one Judas, there has and will always be another Berbatoss/Modric/Bale.
    They should all be thanking Sol for the struggle to leave Spurs and the cost to their new employers. :D
     
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  20. NSIS

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    Fair enough. Thinking about what I said earlier, I do believe that most people, pro footballers included, have a basic sense of loyalty - it's human nature, in most people. Problems arise when you sense that that loyalty is not being reciprocated.
    In the case of Bale, the club - Redknapp, in particular - stuck by him despite his early disastrous form. In the case of Suarez, Liverpool stuck by him when many, many clubs would not have done. He could easily have been deemed more trouble than he was worth. I think Suarez has even publicly said how much he now appreciates that loyalty. So, in both cases they have been shown loyalty by their club and have, IMO, reciprocated that loyalty by signing the extended contracts.
     
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