Just read the interview with MM, bit annoyed to be honest 'Cardiff matches my ambition, ! Ambition Ambition, he said it about seven times.... So what are you saying MM that Watford didn't? Why sign a Three year contract on a team that doesn't match your Ambition??? Honestly why can't managers just be honest and say 'I love it here, they matched my wages'!!! Honestly fuming i am
Has he actually thanked the club at all for giving him his break etc? All I've seen is him implying that we were holding him back and not big enough for him. a position which hasn't changed since he signed a new contract on improved terms.
If you have a subscription to Hornet Player, sign in to Cardiff Player and watch his first interview - a ten minute interview in which he spends some time praising/thanking Watford & the fans. Every little helps I suppose - he does sound as sincere as he always has. Still annoyed that he left though,
BB I did that yesterday and it worked as a bit of a tranquiliser. He seemed to be praising the staff more than anything which worried me, my impression was that he prefered the Cardiff fans even as a visitor last year, maybe just making the right noises to gret hisd new fans approval.
Err .... Malky MacKay that name rings a bell ....... Centre half with Weat Ham, Norwich and Celtic I believe. Whatever happened to him? Umm I heard an extract of the interview, and it hasn't taken him long to adopt the "big club, big ambition mentality". I wonder if he actually has a point - Baz isn't exactly taking the club to new heights. For us its about what happens next and the future ........
What ambition do we the fans have for OUR club? I don't support Watford as a big time Charlie win at all costs, get to the prem whatever it costs club. I want us to get promotion to the prem at least once in the next 5 years but to do it based upon finding and nurturing talent. I'll be happy for next couple of seasons if we can make the payments, get the squad to a decent size, stay in the championship hopefully knocking on the door of the playoffs each season, get the pitch straightened out and somehow increase the attractiveness of the club to build a bigger true fan base. I want us to do this all whilst living within our means as well as having GT continuously involved with the club and Elton to be involved to an extent even if its just the odd concert for players. Also I'd like to see one young manager buy into the club, love it and have the patience to develop it, taking his reward as creating talent and building year on year such that every season the club as a whole is a healthier and more stable animal. Oh and of course and it'll be helped by the pitch see us continue to play attractive football and take apart at least one decent team a year in a humiliating manner as we did with QPHa...
Blimey chaps! Some rather ungenerous comments if I may say so. Malky did the job at Watford he was asked to do. He kept us in this division on a shoestring and developed some players for profitable sale. In other words, he saved us from relegation and administration. Not enough for some it seems--he did not leave in a manner they approve of, so now he is a "judas" to be airbrushed from the history of the club. In the process of keeping us up, he also showed that he can build a squad that can play attractive football, be trusted with loan players from top clubs (must mean he is respected in the game) and (for most of his time here--not the last week it seems) gain the affection and respect of fans, so that they will want to renew season tickets in a club where he is manager. No wonder then that recently he began to attract the attention of clubs seeking managers, and no wonder that given the situation at Watford (notwithstanding the fact that "we gave him his chance") he should sooner or later take one of them. In fact, the last interview he gave to the WO signaled clearly that he thought he had done his job at Watford, that he was frustrated with having to build /break up/rebuild teams every 6 months, and was ready to move on to a club that had the resources to challenge for a higher division , not once again be fighting relegation. You could read the writing on the wall then if you cared to look. This is not to say that Watford are not "ambitious" . For Watford surviving in this division is ambitious. We do not have the resources to be aspire to more than this; the next manager will take the job on these terms. So--thanks Malky, you achieved a lot. The next manager will have to achieve the same on even less. In other words, be even better than Malky. Let us hope GT can find him , and Mr B agrees to appoint him; my worry now is that Mr B in his new "hands on " role will make a mess of this appointment. The next two weeks are crucial. (I have the feeling that we will be saying "the next two weeks are crucial" from now till the end of the season) .
Afternoon all, former occasional 606 poster rossjenkins9 here re-branded for not606. Very worrying few weeks and unless we move quickly we will be behind schedule to have a team on and off the field ready to start the season. Looking at the two betting sites with odds on our next manager Laws, Westley and Sanchez have come in from nowhere two of those three would represent a major lack of ambition, I would rather an unproven manager with an old head assistant than a proven failure. Tisdale or McInnes would be my preferred options, both fit our model and will have targets from lower league / Scotland who will fit our budget.
I think it is safe to say that Mr Mackay does not have the right kind of ambition this club needs. We need someone who is not out to make a name for himself and is not out to make a quick buck. The person we get in needs to be patient, needs to be able to work on a negligable budget, with no expectations and little to no investment, but be able to take some stick when/if things go tits up. Mackay clearly did not have any patience and wants to make a name for himself but is not comfortable doing this the right way, he wants to do it the easy way, with money!
Hi bhd . That means that Tommy S was just trying to make a name for himself and out to make a quick buck, doesn't it? 'Sauce for the goose...' and all that.
Judas .... Malky, no the label doesn't fit for my money. Was he looking for an opportunity / the "right opportunity" - quite possibly, from what I know of Baz I couldn't work for him. What would I say to Baz if I saw him in the street? Quite simply : "Can you give it a good wash, and pay particular attention to the wheels ...." In many ways I though BR was "looking for an opportunity" to better himself. 2 years on from his exit from Vicarage Road, I bet he has few regrets. We need to understand Watford is a "feeder club / stepping stone" on the ladder to success. We give people an opportunity. What makes us so attractive on the "journey to the top"? We are a (half) decent 2nd level club, and in England there is one hell of a lot of football below us!
From a great post from Roger (also totally agree with Aberdeen's post that preceded it). Raises an issue that may be important concerning whoever takes over: looking at how important our loan signings have been to us over the past 2 or 3 seasons, we could do with someone else who SAF etc feel happy to entrust their youngsters to.
Tommy S?? if you mean the player then no. He went to better himself and for a new challenge. He took a step up, where as Mackay has taken a sideways step and has done it for what seem like the wrong reasons. He had every chance with watford and had the backing of everyone (we assume) and had all the time in the world to succeed and if he didnt then it did not matter. He has moved (it seems) because he wants it easy and he had a challenge on his hands at wfc, at cardiff he will have money and what every he wants to succeed. But he will only have it whilst he gets results!
But all that could be said of Tommy. He had the backing of everyone. All the time in the world to succeed, and if he didn't it didn't matter. He had a challenge on his hands at Watford. At QPR he has money and whatever he wants to succeed. I genuinely don't see the difference. John Barnes moved to Liverpool - I never thought "Judas, why aren't you finishing your career with us?" Was The Great Man Luther a Judas when he left us for AC Milan? No. People move on. It's the way they do it that counts. Rodgers was a numpty (not the word I had for him at the time ), Williamson was an arse (although he did not celebrate Newcastle's goals at Watford and slowly jogged on his own back to his half). Tommy Smith was a legend (in his own right as a Hornet, and then the way he snubbed Rodgers), Mlaky did wonders for us (BTW 'win stats' are poor stat as they say nothing of what the manager had to deal with) and has moved on reasonably I believe. Good luck to him.
