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Nani or Valencia

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Jezz511, Jun 16, 2011.

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Nani or Valencia

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  1. Constcrepe

    Constcrepe Active Member

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    Nolhman you try to be clever and all you do is sound stupid. Doing the simple things will not win finals <doh>. Valencia doesn't do unnecessary step overs in any game final or otherwise. He doesn't show boat as that's not in his make up. He gets the ball looks at the FB and uses his pace to go by him and does what wingers are supposed to do. Cross the ball to the attacking players. That creates chances, that puts the opposition under pressure, that can makes his opponents make mistakes, and that what allows Utd to score goals.

    You make reference to Valencia and his performance against Barca. Yes he didn't play well but then again who really did? I have told you this many times when you called yourself LusiNani17. Judge Valencia after he has had a full preseason to train and get fully fit. He had been out following a terrible injury and is not the same player we had all seen the season before.
     
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  2. Valencia25

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    If reports are true, We will sign Young sell Nani and buy Sanchez. All this means is Nani will be sold and Valencia won't be first choice. Young would be left mid and Sanchez right, Valencia won't be playing regardless. However, I doubt this will happen.
     
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  3. Corbo

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    Naninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninaninani
     
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  4. Constcrepe

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    Sanchez can be used as ACM as well as on the wings. Time will tell. There are more surprises waiting this transfer window. After all you did predict Nolhman SAF would not buy players this summer.
     
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  5. Valencia25

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  6. Constcrepe

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  7. Swarbs

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    Right before he gave the ball away to Barca for the third goal. That's the problem with Nani - always looks like a threat but always looks like he may make a crucial error by overelaborating when he just needs to play the ball.
     
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  8. Valencia25

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  9. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Just bollocks. It took valencia a ****ing lifetime to be able to cross when he first came.

    Nani is better, you have to be blind not to see it.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Lol why bring this up and not mention the other United players who made mistakes resulting in Barcelona scoring.

    Where the hell was Evra for the first for example?

    Why was Valencia doing nothing but commit fouls?

    This is what I mean when I say Nani is over criticised.
     
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  11. Valencia25

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    United19Red

    Not to forget, it was Carrick who slammed the ball into Nani's leg.
     
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  12. Swarbs

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    He was obviously trying to play it to Evra, who was in a safe position at the edge of the box. Nani shouldn't have even tried to get near it. Even a schoolboy knows you shouldn't try to bring a ball down in your own box when there's an opponent right in front of you.

    He was dragged out of position by Pedro and Messi (IIRC) switching places. It was actually Vidic who was marking Pedro right before he peeled off to score. Yes it was a bad error, but Nani's was worse imo - there's a difference between getting done by your opponent's movement and cutting out a pass by your own team mate, only to give it to the opposition in your own penalty area.

    I'm not over criticising him. He's one of our best attacking players, but you have to admit that Nani's judgement can be very poor in defence at times. Valencia made plenty of fouls, but none of them were in particularly dangerous areas. But Nani gave a goal away with pretty much his first touch.
     
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  13. Corbo

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    Yes, Nani was at fault there but I don't think he can be blamed, but as the others have pointed out the defence was all over the place and it didn't help when Carrick passed it hard to him outside the Penalty box,especially vs Barca where they immediately pressure you.

    I understand why Valencia started vs Barca but at half time, Nani should have be brought on.
     
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  14. BiggerEggo

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    thats why we've been in 3 CL finals in 4 years and nani has started none of them,is it? if SAF thinks valencia is better for the team than nani,then i think ill stick with his opinion.of course,i assume you think hes blind too,yes?
     
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  15. Corbo

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    Fergie's decisions isn't always correct, you must be a deluded fan, if you think Fergie is always correct. I belive Fergie got the tactics wrong vs Barca and Nani had to be brought on earlier.
     
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  16. BiggerEggo

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    i think if valencia had played well,then fergies tactics wouldve been correct.but valencia had the worst game of his life,made about half a run in the entire game,and so fergie cant exactly be blamed for that.the substitution shouldve been made earlier obviously,but hernandez was woeful too,and i dont hear anyone using that as a reason that berbatov is better.one game doesnt prove anything as regards who is better.nani was our worst player when we lost to arsenal and valencia shouldve played instead of him.see what i mean? overall,valencia is more useful to us than nani.
     
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  17. Corbo

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    Why do you think Valencia had his worst game of his life, I'm not slating him or anything, but his game is soley taping past a player run past him and cross.(Which is think is extremely effective). But playing a team which pressurise you once u get the ball, u need a player which is more technical ie. Nani.

    Fergie's tactis was wrong I think, playing vs Barca you need to flood the midfield, but he plays 4-4-2 hence Barca had complete domination. I know rooney was dropping back, but he wasn;t doing it as effective as if it was a conventional midfielder.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Erm......Nani has had Ronaldo as competition for 2 of those years, Park who fergie felt obliged to play in 2009 and Giggs. And did I mention he was a kid for 2 of them>?
     
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  19. Jezz511

    Jezz511 Well-Known Member

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    But who else do you put in CM? I mean we started with Carrick (who wasn't as bad as people made out) and Giggs (who definitely was) Do we stick John-O in the middle aswell, or gibson?
     
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  20. Corbo

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    I would have started Anderson, he was on form scoring 2 goals in his last game, but never seemed to feature.
    But i would have put park in the middle and nani on the left, if it was a 4-5-1 formation.
     
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