1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Limp, passionless, lifeless, pathetic and we all knew that before we kicked off

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by typical, Mar 9, 2014.

  1. Iwantabettertakeover

    Iwantabettertakeover Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2011
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    2
    Obvious to me as well Jimmy..<ok>

    ...and that was just the good bits...

    Reza with the only shot in anger throughout the whole game, yet can't get start a match..?

    Tudgay, what's the point..? Other than summing up our transfer policy... Get rid of best striker, replace with ****

    We definitely looked like we set up not to lose... Not acceptable, for a cup game.
     
    #21
  2. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    35
    I thought Tudgay was alright... no Yann but seen worse strikers in a Charlton shirt... mainly Sordell. Reza is still lightweight and useless in this division, let alone if we go down and face far more physical teams. Rest I said on the match thread, no passion from the players and Powell giving up with 30 minutes and thinking about Huddersfield
     
    #22
  3. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2013
    Messages:
    18,196
    Likes Received:
    8,079
    I thought that it was the manager's job to instill passion in the players? I didnt see any of that today. Bottom of the league feeder club who's anorak fans continue to gave a prolonged lovd in with a clown.
     
    #23
  4. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    35
    I support Powell I do, but 2 games in a row now he has got it very wrong and I'm fuming, he loses to Huddersfield AND Millwall (i will take 4 points, don't get me wrong) but if we get less than 3 points out of our next 2 games he's gone in my books, Sorry Chris, great servant but it's time for a change at this rate
     
    #24
  5. Jimmy The Addick

    Jimmy The Addick Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    5
    The Tudgay signing was just another case of not spending money on someone decent in the window, and Powell having to look at scraps from clubs wanting to offload players. You are never going to sign a quality player on loan, especially from a team in the same division. If he was good enough he would be playing for his own club.

    I completely agree Reza should have started, as should have Astrid, but it would have made no difference. Our back 4 were absolutely awful right from the start. I am seriously starting to dislike Morrison, the more i watch him the more i notice he seems to be the main culprit with the hoofball approach. Lost count of how many times today Poyet, JJ and Cousins would try to keep the ball on the floor, it would be sprayed around for a bit, get to Morrison, who pisses about with it then just lumps it up.

    Starting to think we will never have the chance to see Chris Powell build his own side in this division, even if he stays and we stay up, it will be more of the same in the summer. Poyet will not be offered a decent enough deal, Polish Pete will sign for Liege for an Undisclosed fee (£0) and we will end up releasing a few players, to "replace" them with even worse players.

    Letting Haynes and Fuller go, then only funding a move for Simon Church is one of the most bizarre footballing decisions i have ever seen, but with this bloke in charge i think that little move may be outdone several times over.
     
    #25
  6. Ken Shabby

    Ken Shabby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2011
    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    2,827
    To a certain extent Jimmy, you are quite right. CP has often had to fight matches with one hand tied behind his back. However, he has a mean ability to tie the other one up for himself too, and he showed it today. This was a big game, we should have laced into them and given it the big one, but once again, we have a formetion that necesitates players out of their natural position, and a liflessness that suggested our pre match build up included flying in from Hong Kong twenty minutes before kick off. I've generally insisted that I don't think changing managers is a clever way forward, but honstly, how many losses do we have to clock up before he sees stuff the fans noticed the first time he tried it (yep, I'm on about the Cousins wide role again, and taking off Poyet, who is probably way to good for us on today's showing was the mark of a manager who had lost the plot).
    I think on the basis of the last two we're on our way down, and we'll be giving the Lions a few laughs next weekend on the way. I won't be calling for CP to walk or get the sack as it's not my way, but don't expect me to sign any petitions to keep him after today either.
     
    #26

  7. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2013
    Messages:
    18,196
    Likes Received:
    8,079
    Does anyone know why Powell is doing his best to ruin Cousins career ?
     
    #27
  8. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,870
    Likes Received:
    71
    This was what I posted a few days ago on why I think Powell plays Cousins on the right:

    Green isn't good enough. Wilson is good enough to play on the right, and ideally would play there with Solly at RB. Obviously Solly is out long-term, and Powell clearly doesn't think Nego is up to it, hence he puts Wilson at RB. Pritchard (who I agree was poor this season) had been quite effective on the right, not necessarily individually but team-wise, and there was a stat that we earned considerably more points with him at RM than when anyone else played there. Powell sees Cousins as a similar player (though better) to Pritchard, hence he plays him on the right.

    There is also the Poyet factor, which, coupled with Jackson's continuing knack of scoring crucial goals, means that there isn't a place in the middle for Cousins. Personally, I would drop Jacko to the bench to move Cousins into the middle, leaving Jacko to play the impact sub role he performed so well against Ipswich on NYD. I can see, however, that dropping the captain would be a big move, particularly given the experience we would be missing out on in the middle.

    As I say, we're not going to get the best out of Cousins while he's playing anywhere else but in the middle, so it's obviously not ideal that he is playing there. I'm not entirely sure what the solution is though.
     
    #28
  9. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,870
    Likes Received:
    71
    To be clear, I don't like Powell playing Cousins on the right.
     
    #29
  10. Ken Shabby

    Ken Shabby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2011
    Messages:
    4,287
    Likes Received:
    2,827
    Maybe a formation that includes Poyet and Cousins in the middle. I see what you're saying Captain, but the square pegs in round holes thing is starting to grate on my nerves like a bloke at a funeral playing a kazoo.
     
    #30
  11. Jimmy The Addick

    Jimmy The Addick Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    5
    We should just try wing backs

    Hamer

    Morrison Wood
    Wilson....................Wiggins
    Cousins
    Poyet............JJ
    Ajdarevic......................Reza
    Church​

    I only put Church there because Polish Pete is never going to feature in a CAFC shirt.

    Cousins out on the right is a no go, think Powell only does it because he knows at least Cousins will put the work in and we have absolutely no valid options on the right with Wilson having to play at the back and not being overly great on the wing either
     
    #31
  12. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    35
    To Solve the Cousins on the right job.... play him RB and make Wilson RM? It's not hard, Cousins was RB in the youth team sometimes wasn't he? Surely that's the logical thing
     
    #32
  13. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2013
    Messages:
    18,196
    Likes Received:
    8,079
    Another laughable thing ; we tossed it in last week at Leicester and were told the lads were putting all their efforts in the Cup gamr today, so forgive them!

    When we went two down today, where were the leaders, and where was the response? The only team who went for it were Sheffield.

    Powell's comment about the Harriott miss said it all

    "If he scores it gives us something to HANG ON TO"

    Against a league one side. Cautious Chris I salute you (two fingered salute, mind...)
     
    #33
  14. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    1,215
    Likes Received:
    35
    League 1 side that has won 8 on the spin and beaten prem opposition and a team higher than us in the league

    but I do get your point, we shouldnt be going for a 1-0 win, and then to give up with 30 minutes left like he did takes the p!ss and doesnt show any respect to the fans who made that journey
     
    #34
  15. charltonted

    charltonted Active Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    69
    Worrying, I agree with Vol, (other than the unnecessary two fingers), If we had scored it should have been something to build on. Though CP had PR training on how to spin, clearly he has been missing classes. CP appears out of ideas we may not have the players he wants but his job should be to give the players we got some plan to work with. I approach Wednesday's match with depressing pessimism after that performance.
     
    #35
  16. Franco5

    Franco5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    1,461
    Likes Received:
    146
    Cryptic tweet from Andy Ansah...:

    To my fellow #Charlton fans there is disappointment from today's loss.
    The truth will surface behind it.
    I won't say no more.
     
    #36
  17. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    11,354
    Likes Received:
    8,347
    Why not play Cousins at RB and Wilson at RM?

    I still think Green or Tudgay or Harriott would be a better bet at RM than Cousins.

    Or a 3-5-2 with Wiggins and Wilson as wing-backs.

    Anything else really.
     
    #37
  18. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,870
    Likes Received:
    71
    I know Cousins is used to playing at RB from his days in the youth sides, but we've seen how good a central midfielder he can be and it would be a shame to waste that in my view.

    I'd like to see the team A4L suggested in the match thread.

    Hamer
    Wilson – Morrison – Wood – Wiggins
    Cousins – Poyet
    Harriott – Ajdarevic – Jackson
    Tudgay​

    Possible with Harriott on the left and The Asteroid on the right, and perhaps Reza up front instead of Tudgay, but I reckon that formation would get the best out of everyone. Wilson and Wiggins are both pretty good at getting forward so it's not as if we would lack penetration on the wings.
     
    #38
  19. Whats up Doc

    Whats up Doc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    480
    Why Cousins was yet again played on the right only Powell knows, tactically he must be the worst manager in the league. I couldn't see where we were gonna score, no threat whatsoever.

    Can't make the Huddersfield game, fingers crossed Powell can't either, I said the other day I'd happily keep him for the rest of the season but we WILL go down with him in charge, resign Chris.
     
    #39
  20. User deleted as requested

    User deleted as requested Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2013
    Messages:
    18,196
    Likes Received:
    8,079
    A final decision also needs to be made on Simon Church. Both of United's strikers yesterday were a lot, lot better then the Vicar. If you go into every game with a striker who carries no goal threat other than tap ins (Sheffield Wed) you are playing with ten men.
     
    #40

Share This Page