Some of the views on this thread are surreal. 1. The idea of wanting to lose a game against any opposition is pathetic. To want to lose an FA cup quarter final beggars belief. 2. To be depressed that we are in the top tier of English football is a view of someone who doesn't want the best for our club. It is not the view of a supporter.
I credited you with enough savvy to understand what I meant. We hardly broke sweat the other week. You gave us a better game with nine men in Autumn. Anyway, may the best team win tomoz.
Oh I knew what you meant, I just thought it was daft given there were factors like the sending off and the fact that we're not a top 5 team so hardly going show consistent performances. Does Hull play fantastic every single game? To question our capabilities over one match you saw where we didn't perform is frankly ridiculous fella, that's all. Best team win indeed. Enjoy the game fella
I speak as I find, old boy. I've seen us lose plenty of times against ten men. Good feisty chat from yourself, in Jozy we trust
It's fortunate. For one example that I've seen first hand we were fortunate to beat Cardiff because we were absolutely woeful until we scored. Had that gone a bit differently they'd have an extra 3 points on you. Palace with a 1-1 at Swansea that from what I heard after the game was one they could have won with a bit more luck (if that's not right don't shoot the messenger). The next week after the Cardiff game we go in at half-time 2-0 down through gifts of goals, one of them being right before HT, despite having had a player miss a basically open goal by kicking it at the keeper as he's laid on the floor (from which they countered and scored the opener), missed two free headers, and hit the bar. That's not typical of a team in midtable, it's just unlucky. Teams at the bottom will always pick up a result here or there, the fact they haven't been whilst you've not been playing is good psychologically because there's no gap to catch up. They'll pick some up soon, but you'll also be playing and it's within your control to stop a gap opening up, rather than just having to sit and watch it happening for a few weeks. Equally, we've been fortunate they haven't done it yet as we'd be looking closer to the drop than we are if they had.
Of course we have to go for it tomorrow, no question. For what it's worth IMO the extra game(s) in the Cup won't make the slightest difference to the Premier league survival of either teams, despite Cardiffs' 3 points today I think they're still toast along with Fulham (obviously) and WBA. May the best team win tomorrow (as long as it has City in the name!).
Yeah but you would have 3 less putting you only two points head of us but we'd have two games in hand of you. It was fortunate for you, not for Sunderland, didn't matter for us either way as regardless of the result both team weren't going to pull way rapidly. Teams at the bottom play each other. Unless everyone starts pulling away rapidly aren't changing much, everyone can't pull away like that because we all have plenty of games against each other, it would also require all these teams to start beating the top teams regularly. I've seen more relegation battles than enough to know it's typical that there aren't many pulling away at this stage with so many in a relegation battle. There's still ten teams in this battle fella. Go and check the 2010–11 and 2008–09 season played out.
Tomorrow's game is impossible to call. In our home game, we were all over Sunderland, but then after the sending off's we couldn't break them down. At the away game, they went down to ten so early it was a bit of a walk in the park. They looked a completely different team at Wembley, despite losing, they played very well. If we had Jelly and Long available, I'd expect us to win, without them, I'm not confident.
Combine our 2 games. If you're taking the Cardiff points from us then we'll take the Newcastle points we should have had wrapped up at half-time despite our shocking defending. We'd have been the same, Cardiff would have been 3 points better off. You were lucky that we were lucky the week we were and not the one after as the table would look worse for you if it had been the opposite way round. It'd make little difference to us if Cardiff had the extra 3 points, as there'd still be WBA 5 points behind us (we've got the gd on them at the moment, you don't), you though would be 3 points instead of 1 from safety, just using 2 games I know went the "wrong" way based purely on luck on the day. Similarly, West Ham are on a good run despite a 1-0 defeat to Everton, so we might be lucky to be in the Cup (we were due to play them today), by the time we get round to playing them they could be in a bad run again.
No I'm not All I'm saying is that the result wasn't that important to Sunderland which ever way it went. You clearly don't get what I mean if you think I'm trying to deduct, I'm not interested in a hypothetical result discussion (it's as big a waste of time as the 'what would you rather' threads regarding league/relegation on my board). You say we're fortunate 'results have gone our way' All I'm saying is the bottom is taking shape exactly the way I've been expecting it with very few pulling away because I've experienced relegation battles that involve so many teams which is why I'm finding it quite typical.
Some pathetic ideas on here, it isn't an "either or" between the PL & FA Cup. We have two different strike partnerships for a start. It will be a close game
It's something that's swept our board fella. Sick to the back teeth. I hate hypothetical conversation. Pet hate.
I can see what you mean, we can only win the FA cup, for the first time, once. It will be the last time we can get Hull City on the trophy.
Hard game today, we need goals early. To say you 'expect' us to stay up is very bold, as we have not been playing like a team that merits that phrase, nor do we have that level of safety - do you remember Newcastle in our first PL year? Our recent loss against Newcastle was the signature loss of a wobbly team - we have to hope others are more wobbly. Look to win everything.
