Cissokho has value only as a defender. As soon as the game demands possession and forward forays, he's of little use. Johnson is the polar opposite, for opposite reasons.
If one has the presence of mind to diagnose an inconsistency and prescribe a solution, one becomes more demanding of improvement. If one tends to bask in the joy of better performances than a year before, then he'll be slower and "considerate" in notching up ambitions. A forum is a place for both analysis and unconditional solidarity, hence a contrast between two types of supporter personalities often arises.
True, but acknowledgement of improvement doesn't mean a belief that the job is done and we can rest on our laurels. I doubt that there's anyone on here who doesn't understand that there is still work to be done, we can all see that the number of goals we concede is an issue. However, when somebody consistently highlights the problems over the accomplishments then it just creates an atmosphere of negativity and gives the impression that they'll never be happy and give credit where it's due.
I totally agree with the OP. I think our biggest worry is, that players who may need a rest,or just the injection of freshness to the team isn't going to happen because of our lack of depth and injuries. It would be good to see Lucas and sakho back very soon. ( don't think we will see Enrique again this season ) I know we are only playing one game a week but just bringing in fresh hungry players would always be beneficial.
The issue for me is that people are quick to criticise but not as ready to praise. They complain we conceded 5 goals against Fulham & Swansea but they don't acknowledge the fact that we scored 7 goals against them and that we are the league's top scorers. Apparently Allen 'saved' Rodgers' tactics today. Surely its no coincidence we scored 4 goals in a game for the 9th time this season? And I think if the manager made a substitution that changed the game in his teams favour then he deserves credit? Rodgers is a young manager and its obvious he knows there is a problem with our defence because he signed Sakho,, Cissokho, Mignolet, Ilori & Toure in the summer, he's played numerous different formations and combinations at centre back plus used at least 8 different players in the full back positions. He was always going to make mistakes as he's still learning on the job but he's done far more right than he has done wrong, so I think he deserves to be cut a little slack, especially when you look at the bigger picture and we are miles ahead of our schedule (or whatever you want to call it) under him.
Atmosphere, impression ... Let's grow up shall we. When a performance is under par and a poster supports criticism with reasoned out thoughts, the touchy protective fan has little to fear and much to work with. It's all good. Take Suarez for instance - his over the top hunger, drive, ambition, demand for improvement and reaction to mediocrity even when his team is leading. .. OTT, but a great thing for us to have, a wonderful propeller.
Erm, what has "growing up" got to do with it? A little condescending that. I see that we're in a position that I hardly dreamt of at the beginning of the season, I watch a game where we're by no means perfect but still triumph. Then I come on here and see comments that would be more applicable to a dull, uninspired draw or defeat, so I come to the conclusion that some people are only happy when they're complaining. Moreover, they seem to think that those of us who are enjoying the season are somehow foolishly complacent and can't see the limitations that they feel the need to concentrate on. I sometimes wonder why people even bother to follow football when even relative success seems to make them so miserable.
The 3 goals they scored were certainly down to us. Skerts will bear the responsibility but for me the real problem lay in front of him. Our midfield was so stretched that there were gaps the size of Outer *****lia for them to run in. Sure Hendo got a couple but was so intent on going forward that he was missing when it came to covering their attacks. We've discussed our back 4 limitations over and over again and I have nothing to add that would be useful. I still believe that the major problem was/is and will continue to be a settled selection. Having said that, we're top 4 with an outside chance of a challenge for the title. We play some beautiful football and as others have said we'd have lost that game last season. I've got far more to delight in than I have to criticise! So on to the next game.
A great comment, football is not a perfect sport where stats and figures rule, passion is what drives a true fan. I'm so disappointed to come back on here today and find that there has been anything but praise for where we are and what we have done so far this season, it doesn't matter how we win at this point the fact that we did win is enough and something to celebrate.
I gave you the example of the demanding character of Suarez, which I suppose you couldn't fit into your reply. Suarez's demanding, even heckling, personality doesn't prevent him from enjoying football, does it? I'd say he's capable of enjoying football more than the vast majority of players or fans out there. It is actually that absolute joy for the game that makes him such a passionate whirlwind pulling everyone forward towards higher standards regardless of when, where, who. Anyway, I come across different fans all the time. We all have different personalities. I personally value grit, passion, ambition, accountability, sound tactics and objective analysis of the latter... and ponder a little less on the less dynamic stuff, on which I gladly yield the lead to you and some other posters on here. If we want to analyse a performance, however, lets get to the meat of it rather than question the supporter.
I feel sorry for Skrtel in that he seems to be trying to do everything himself. The rest of the defence isn't helping him anywhere near as much as they need to be and the midfield isn't protecting enough. However, we play such an attacking game that we're bound to be light at the back at times. It's a choice we've made based on the abilities of the players that we currently have. They're talking on MOTD about not being able to win the league if you concede too many goals, but frankly I can't see the difference in winning 1-0 to winning 4-3. Obviously we'd be better if we had a world class defence to go with our world class attack, but we haven't. So we play to our strengths.
Are you for real? What the hell does Suarez's attitude towards a game and football in general have to do with the points that saint raised? If that's your idea of a logical argument then you are very very far from the point. Personally I couldn't give a bugger what you value., you have no right to either hector or demean another poster who reasonably promotes another view.
I agree. It might come as surprise to some to consider that within the constraints of the squad we have, there is little we can do to change the situation until after the WC. So, we maximise the resources that we do have.
Don't agree with some of what I have read. We cannot keep winning games forever with defensive displays like that, and against Fulham, and West Brom and... One day our strikers will be off the boil and we will lose. Our defenders simply must improve and take the pressure off the forwards. Its madness to think 'we'll outscore our defenders terrible errors' is a way of becoming a successful team. I agree with Foredeck with making the best of what we have, but they needs to take responsibility for their mistakes and learn from them. Not clear this is happening this year with quite a few cringingly awful defensive displays.
Whether or not we, as fans on a forum, choose to be positive or negative has no influence at all on the performance of the team, fortunately. Therefore it just comes down to whether we want to enjoy what we watch, or just criticise it. If you feel the need to dwell on the problems then fine, that's up to you- I prefer the former option. Just don't make the mistake of thinking that those of us who aren't constantly trying to pull every performance apart are somehow blissfully unaware of our shortcomings. Perhaps we're just happy to be witnessing the most entertaining string of performances from our team for many years, coupled with, no matter how you want to look at it, a pretty decent league standing.
Turning the tables pal? It's the above posters (saint and now yourself included) that were out of line to question the integrity of my posts. I'm alone here making a case for ambition against a gaggle of touchy grown up men suffering from truth agoraphobia, accusing me of making the skies a darker shade of blue than they're comfortable with. ...The challenge should be to a post specifically and not the poster. Suarez... It is not even an analogy, but a mere illustration (as Suarez is a fan besides being a player) and you don't get it? Really?
What a complete load of tosh. Somebody disagrees with your attitude and you have a hissy-fit! Now, you are free (within reason) to post what you want to say but you never did have a patent upon the truth. Hence you are in no position to hector others who taking an opposing position. BTW I am not your pal and neither do I suffer from agoraphobia. "Suarez... It is not even an analogy, but a mere illustration (as Suarez is a fan besides being a player) and you don't get it? Really?" Get what? Perhaps if you put the point that you are trying to make in a cogent format then it might be easier for all of the other posters to understand what you are attempting to say. Illustration is supposed to be a devise to help make things clear. On this occassion you appear to have failed.
