This thread seems to have taken off! I can only claim to have scanned it, but nowt surprises me in what I have glimpsed. So we have sponsorship deals in the closing stages of being signed, but the strong ones are not Tiger biased; what a marvellous act of honesty (on behalf of the owners), some might say, to be so up-front in putting a negative on the core club spin. Or maybe they are trying to (cleverly, if you are a thick **** - sorry ladies, but this boils my piss) paint their way back out of that foolish corner they have take a mortgage out on. I have given CTWD a rough ride at times and I will again, should the need arise; but what have they done except be honest and (misguided, IMO) reasonable in their approach to Allam? I would have a pint tomorrow with TOM, who cares, and I would happily have a coffee with Filey who just wants to enjoy it all - Hull City AFC ; what the **** is wrong with that? The only thing Assem Allam lacks in his claim to Hull heritage is a ****ing good thump in the gob, because if he blathered like this a good while back, he would have been frowned on. Detest the twat.
Mr Blamphey as perhaps one of those you refer to in your missive--the press release viewed from the clubs perspective seems resonable. From it I infer (although granted they do not say it directly) that Sponsorhip deals that hinge on being called the Hull Tigers would bring in signiificant more revenue than a 50% or greater season ticket price increase. You may not believe that but clearly the club do. I as an upright a.........ler am not sure who to believe. them or you lot in the CTWD crowd. What I want to believe is that we will win tomorrow against Cardiff and this season remain in the Premier League if that is facilitated by being called the Hull Tigers then so be it. And before you say that has nothing to do with us staying in the Premier League, I am sure you are aware from whose pocket the 14 m came from to buy Long and Jelavic on whom our hopes are pinned, I am sure it was not the CTWD group.
30M? Really? http://www.sportingintelligence.com...rd-166m-into-top-flight-bank-accounts-200801/ so we are now more valuable to sponsors than Manchester United?
and that's the whole point. no-one actually believe a word that comes out of Allams mouth, except maybe that ****wit HappyTiger, there is no sponsor who wants the name change, there is no-one who is going to pump huge sums of money into the club, especially if they don't gain control and especially with someone who is so unbankable as the nutter we have in charge of the club - I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone actually defends this guy - he needs to sell the club and leave now before he does any more damage to the brand, if that's even possible
This is becoming really embarrassing. Our owner is just consumed by his own pig-headedness and is making a mockery of the club's supporters. And the usual suspects still come out and defend Allam. Where do some people draw the line?
No. "Us" is everyone who doesn't think 2 quid to join CTWD is worth it, i.e. the majority of the fans. Gnomist.
this whole name change thing is very simple.. you have the choice of having a name change in order to try and raise money cos AA is fed up of putting his cash in, or you pay 50% higher prices to raise money. now which one looks the most appetising?
Good morning Happy Tiger. I thought you might be interested that Norwich City's income (note not profit) last year from catering was £4.5 million. In the same period our total turnover was just over £11 million. There's money in beer and pies if done right. Here's the link http://www.canaries.co.uk/news/article/annual-accounts-june-13-101013-1106875.aspx
Hi Obi. Sure, one day when we're in a better financial situation, and we have Delia providing our catering, we could do that. We need a better financial solution right now though, one that is sustainable. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that we almost went out of existence, that Dr Allam pumped a crap load of money in, and that Norwich....are in a different financial situation. Plus, 4.5m, thats great, honestly, but what about the rest we need? How much of that is actual profit too? If its 250 grand, thats not quite so impressive is it? Half a story seems a common theme. Selling more expensive pies and beer is not enough, it would help of course, although are you suggesting the club isn't trying to make the catering and corporate side of things better? You also seem to be conveniently overlooking the fact that the club IS trying everything it can at the moment to engage with fans and to increase footfall into the club, shop etc. There's been an number of initiatives in the last year, including opening the bar for away games, players going out and doing more, improving the matchday experience and many other things. Naturally its easier, and in the interests of some parties to just focus on the negatives and blame everything on Dr Allam. Claiming there is no business plan is an outright lie. Claiming this is all over a spat with HCC is a lie. Claiming selling a few more pies will solve all our financial woes is why you're not running a football club.
Norwich City were in the third division not long ago. They are not Manchester United or Chelsea. There average attendance last season was just under 27,000, something we may have been able to emulate if Assem Allam had sat down and talked to the council rather than threatened to move to Melton. Their turnover excluding the TV money was £25 million. They picked up £7.5 million from commercial activity. Norwich City has a business plan that involves diversification and trying to maximise its income from other sources. Norwich City's profit (excluding player sales) was £14 million. In our most successful season ever our income increased by £35,000 to just over £11 million. An amount similar to that raised by Norwich City from beer, pies, the club shop, sponsorship and advertising. On top of that they provided the land for an hotel and rake in around £500,000 a year from the joint profits. Not quite the same as Reading but Norwich City didn't pay for the hotel to be built, just provided the land. If I'm reading the club statement correct we will sign our sponsorship deals after the 9th April when the FA make their decision. If we are in the relegation places will the sponsors pull out? If they are insisting we change the name then, of course they'll pay top dollar even if we are in the championship. After all its the name that's important not the worldwide exposure because we are in the Premier League. Somehow I expect them to pull out if we get relegated and we could end up with no shirt sponsors at all or else scrabbling about looking for the next Cash Convertors. The club received a public offer from Hull City Council to discuss the KC. The one thing that would make a massive difference to our financial position would be an extension to our council house. It would increase attendances, increase spending in and around the ground, increase local advertising and maybe national advertising and increase receipts for tickets. Assem Allam doesn't talk to the council though does he?
Was that a joke? Given the name change wouldn't bring in any more money and a 50% rise in ticket prices wouldn't even cover Huddlestones wages then I'd say we're ****ed if they are our only two options.
The bottom line is essentially: Allam saved us from liquidation by underwriting the debt, he has since doubled that debt to get us into the premier league. Now he has realised to maintain the clubs current position he needs to continue putting his own money in because our revenue isn't sufficient (something he should have considered 2/3 years prior to this), he has no plan to achieve this extra revenue and is gambling on some speculative name change as the answer to our problems. He is an egotistical man and has taken the resistance to his plan personally, rather than back down he has ploughed on, making more ridiculous statements and unsubstantiated claims. Ultimately despite his 'expert' business sense (which he constantly reminds us of) he's forgotten one of the major rules, which is a business is nothing without customers, by alienating his customers there is a very distinct possibility that he will lose revenue next season and the club will be in a worse position because of it. He needs to learn some humility and how to compromise, being single minded might have worked for him in the past but he will come unstuck if he continues to run a football club like this. He has a lot of money to lose so it's in his best interest to do what's best for the club.
The club have now admitted that our new shirt sponsor hasn't had any bearing on the name change, but vaguely suggest that there might be other sponsors if there is a name change, but to sponsor what? We already have long term sponsors for the stadium and the kit, what's left, the players shorts, the pies? There are no sponsors waiting in the wings, there was no suggestion by CTWD that season ticket prices should increase, the FA have agreed nothing, nor do I believe they will agree, as they've been fed the same vague nonsense that we have.
Someone the other day posted about the perfect model to follow - from the looks of it Norwich is the one, half a million debt, raising revenue, only spending what they can in the transfer market, producing young players and maximising the revenue every way they can. I bet their club shop has hats in in the winter!
