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O/T Rooney's contract.

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Quill

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    Really? Paying Rooney 300k makes sense?
     
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    So Rooney is worth 10 Huddlestones?
     
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    £85 million the deal is worth to Rooney.

    I'm sorry but if anyone thinks any footballer is worth that much money they've lost the plot.

    I remember Shearer commenting about five years ago that some player or other ( can't remember who) wasn't worth the money they were getting paid, it was around £80,000 I think.

    He called it obscene and said he himself wasn't worth anywhere near the money he was getting when he was playing but wasn't going to turn it down.

    He called it ridiculous.


    Well it's getting worse at an alarming rate of knots.


    A bit of common sense and humility from Shearer I thought.
     
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  6. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    He's easily 10 times better if that's what you're asking?

    I assumed Huddlestone would be on around 40k, does anyone actually have a clue what sort of wages were giving out this season to anyone?
     
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  7. PLT

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    True, and normally I'm one of the first to moan when people start knocking high profile players seemingly because they're high profile but with Rooney I just feel tempted. It seems like he doesn't have to do anything any more to be England's best player. Sturridge seems to score a brilliant goal every week yet no one mentions him in the same breath as Rooney.
     
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  8. PLT

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    Sorry but there really isn't a logical argument against it.

    Nurses don't get paid millions because their skills aren't as in demand as footballers. Top footballers make money for clubs. Without those players the clubs don't make money. It's only right they get the money back that they're earning. In other industries, the guys in suits who do **** all keep all the money. Footballers get the money they make. I think it's better that way than owners making money out of being knobheads.

    It's not like some committee somewhere is just deciding that certain trades get certain salaries. You get what you can convince someone to pay you. Footballers get paid a lot for the simple reason that they're worth it to their clubs. Simple supply and demand.

    For example I don't resent Huddlestone getting £30k because he earns it, people pay to watch him. I do however resent the idea of any money going to Allam's pockets for him to spend on paying out of court settlements for employees he's tried to sack off.
     
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  9. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    That's senseless.
     
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  10. BrAdY

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    ofcourse

    it's down to envy also.. i mean.. i could ONLY dream of making 30k in a single ****ing week nevermind 300k <laugh> i don't resent them. i resent their talent

    but really they SHOULDN'T be paid such obscene amounts of money for being a footballer. you can't deny that
     
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    I can deny it and that's exactly what I'm doing. It doesn't hurt anyone, it's money that would otherwise be spent on curing cancer or something. It would be in the bank accounts of already wealthy oligarchs taking money out of our game.

    When you eat pork the farmer deserves to make money right? When you watch football who should get the money you pay to watch it? Sky? Abramavich?
     
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  12. BrAdY

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    but taking into fan tickets etc

    it's barely anything

    i don't resent them but in a ideal world, they shouldn't be making that much, like i said i resent their talent that's all

    lucky buggers they are
     
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  13. PLT

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    It's not luck though it's bloody hard work and determination. Anyone could be a footballer if they practiced enough while young. It's comforting to think they were just born with this talent and they're so lucky but I dont believe that. You can only get good through practice. Beckham became a great free kick taker by staying back after training as a kid. In fact Beckham now probably makes more money from simply being David Beckham with his 'celebrity' status than his talent ever got him through football. But people don't moan about the celebrity culture and the money involved with it as much as they do football. I don't get it.
     
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  14. BrAdY

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    like i said, i resent their talent

    i shoulda been a decent footballer but a bad injury and then i lost the passion so to speak
     
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  15. Amin Arrears

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    Disagree with the opening sentiment but agree with the concluding.

    Not everyone can be a footballer, aside from the obvious exclusions such as the disabled, I'd say most people bodies just aren't up to the rigours and strain of the professional game. I was a handy player when I was younger, played for the teams the age groups above and was one of the most skilled on the team, but I just couldn't manage the full 60 minutes (they were half hour halves) and my particular problem would never have fixed itself. I'd last 10 minutes at the pace of a professional game if that. We were scouted regularly, as all youth games were around here, good number of our team got picked for Leicester academy trials, some made it through, including a good few of those who I was better than, I can only assume not being able to last the game left me out.

    On the celebrities point, certainly, their line of work is nowhere near as demanding, they're free to do what they like and a good number are total ****heads constantly wasted, and they get paid a damn sight more for it than footballers do.

    Rooney gets what, £15.6m a year (and I guess him actually receiving the full amount will be largely dependant on appearance fees and performance related bonuses) for working his body physically to its limits and denied any sort of lavish drug fuelled kind of lifestyle.

    Where as, say an actor, can prattle about on a film set for a couple of months, getting absolutely ****faced every day if he/she so wishes, and come away with more cash in less time.

    Not that I think footballers really should be getting these obscene amounts of money, but it's supply and demand as you say. The public obviously spends that much money to see these people ply their trade in whatever line of work they're in, so they're going to see some of it aren't they.
     
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  16. TheCasual

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    IMO Rooney is worth that. Simply because he isn't just a footballer and is a commercial asset. How many shirts do Man Utd sell with Rooney's name on the back? Surely he's worth a cut of that?

    It's the same as putting Tom Cruise in film and paying him £15m. His name sells.
     
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  17. RicardoHCAFC

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    As another comparison.

    Glen Johnson is on £110k at Liverpool.
     
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  18. lmc_tiger

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    If the club generates the money then why not spend the money on wages and players? That's life. Some people make more money than others.

    But I don't agree with Rooney selling his free tickets to ticket touts for loads of money
     
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  19. HHH

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    Back in the day of salary caps the clubs directors would make huge profits whilst the players earned peanuts.

    They were exploited and it's only right that players get their fair share of the pie.

    But it is getting to the point where players can have clubs over a barrel. Rooney and his advisors can just use the threat of running his contract down and United losing him on a free.

    Then they have to lay out a 30-40 million transfer fee to replace him, plus similar obscene wages on top of that.

    This is the cheap option and Rooney is a bit of a twat for playing this game every couple of years.
     
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  20. PLT

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    Agree with that. It seems to affect his form too. I don't know if he loses concentration or what but every time his name in the news for something off the pitch he just stops playing.
     
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