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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Walsh.i.am, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Walsh.i.am

    Walsh.i.am Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    To see him on the bench would give the whole place a much needed lift - fingers and all sorts of other things crossed <ok>
     
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  2. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    An astonishing stat to go with it in Sky's report on Hughton today:
    Not quite on topic, apologies, but I'm not sure it merited its own thread, and it was talking about his record against Tottenham.
     
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  3. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    Quick question, How many managers have you had in the premier league?
     
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  4. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    At a guess, 5 or 6?
     
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  5. Hucks for Manager!

    Hucks for Manager! Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but in the Premier League, baring in mind that Sky believe football began in 1992? Walker and Lambert are the only two truly successful ones at least...

    Brilliant news about Howson though. <ok>

    Edit: John Deehan, Gary Megson and Nigel Worthington are our other Premier League managers. Aren't all three at least partly responsible for taking us down in the years they were in charge?
     
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    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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  7. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Ok Walker, Deehan, Megson, Worthington, Lambert and Hughton by my reckoning.

    Makes Hughton a better manager (in terms of record) than any of the three in bold, which admittedly isn't that impressive, but still better than I thought


    It makes him comparable with Stringer, which is pretty good
     
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  8. Hucks for Manager!

    Hucks for Manager! Well-Known Member

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    He certainly has a better squad than Worthington did.
     
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  9. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Very true, though I'd argue other clubs in the prem are stronger too
     
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  10. Hucks for Manager!

    Hucks for Manager! Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps. Whereas many people seem to think that the ten team relegation scrap this year is due to the Premier League becoming worse in quality, I'd like to think that the opposite is true: there are so many teams struggling because everyone has improved.

    It's almost impossible to compare so I'm sure many will disagree with me, but that's my opinion.
     
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  11. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    but how much has he spent against them? even if you take into account inflation it doesn't sound fantastic!

    I suppose this is where the old line, there are Statistics and then there are lies come into play, you could say that Hughton is only better than Deehan, Megson & Worthy. its all spin.
     
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  12. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I'm not denying that. I'm just saying I'm surprised. Perhaps I shouldn't be, I don't know, but I still am. I suppose I thought Deehan would have done marginally better, and I assumed Stringer was much better.

    As I implied when I first posted it - it's not a big deal, but I was astonished because it doesn't quite match my perception
     
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  13. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    Good old Guru, we can always rely on you to muddy the waters! There is a very good reason why Chris has spent more money than our previous managers, it is also true that Chris has spent less on our team than other teams around us comparatively, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your attempted trouble making!
     
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  14. ColkOfTheBarclay

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    Really glad Howson is back in contention. Him and Tettey getting injured was the biggest blow so far this season. Hopefully his drive through the midfield will help to push the team forward.
     
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  15. Guru of Ipswich

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    sorry dave but i don't think i am, what is the very good reason why CH has spent so much, considering the fact that he took over a side that finished 12th in the premiership? and i would probably put money on that he spent less comparatively to other sides than walker and lambert, and probably more than the other 3.

    Listen my main point is how sources like sky can say that hughton has the 3rd best ratio of norwich managers in the premiership, yet it is hardly in a field of hundreds.
     
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  16. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    Megson was only manager for a handful of games though so not really fair to include him. Basically that stat says that Hootun has a better record in the top flight than Deehan and Worthington, which is hardly a lot to shout about to be honest.
     
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  17. Canary Rob

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    <doh>

    92/93 season net spend -£110k average PL £350k
    93/94 season net spend £550k average PL £1.15m
    94/95 season net spend -£8.8m average PL £1.76m
    04/05 season net spend £7.1m average PL £13.9m
    11/12 season net spend £12.7m average PL £9.2m
    12/13 season net spend £9.4m average PL £18m
    13/14 season net spend £22.7m average PL £23.2m

    So basically Lambert spent more than the league average in his season, whereas Hughton (first season), Worthington and Walker had the worst net spends (half the average) and Deehan and Megson just had a disaster
     
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  18. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate it doesn't tell much of a story, I was just surprised. I get that when you actually look at it, it's not a big deal (which is why I didn't make another thread). I can't quite believe this is going round in circles!! Sorry for hijacking the thread Cromer - this always happens when Guru sticks his blinkered nose in

    To be fair, though, Worthington early on was a decent manager for us before he lost the plot, and to more or less match Stringer is better than expected.
     
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  19. Guru of Ipswich

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    Fair call Rob, if they are correct then i hold my hands up.

    I am quite surprised Lambert spent nearly 13m in his season! I'm struggling to think of who it could have been on. the leeds trio at a guess.

    Also apologies from myself cromer.
     
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  20. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Yep, although they were actually quite cheap. The "big"(!) spends were Ryan Bennett for £3.4m, Pilks for £2m, Vaughan for £2.5m, Morison for £2m and E Bennett for £1.5m

    Looking at that list it looks like Lambert wasted quite a bit of that £13m! Though obviously Morison and E Bennett played their part in a successful first season, if not long term. I always had Lambert down as a very good transfer record, but that little lot suggests it's not resounding
     
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