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Laudrup Meeting

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by swanselona, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. Yankee_Jack

    Yankee_Jack Well-Known Member

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    What I take from the press conference is that at multiple times the topic of coaching staff and related issues were discussed, perhaps once or twice fairly formally and maybe other times less so.

    In each discussion, the HJ/Board/Whomever stated some issue and maybe suggested a specific remedy (if they didn't it becomes murkier and lamer still), to which Laudrup responded reasonably with his usual logic and disagreed, and the HJ/Board/Whomever didn't have enough horse power to counter Laudrup's response, or something got lost in translation that this wasn't an item for debate, but there were no cogent alternatives offered to Laudrup so he went about his usual business.

    My take is that Laudrup thought he had dealt with the issue, it had been "discussed" and "resolved"; but obviously for HJ/Board/Whomever not so much.

    Giving some credence to all the hearsay and innuendo that has been bantered about with respect to players / training etc .... in the meantime, HJ/Board/Whomever are continuing to be bugged by the complaints/moans/whatever from the "other side", and HJ/Board/Whomever don't have the horsepower or will power to deal with that. So ultimately instead of resolving a situation they let themselves get to a point where they maybe are a tad trapped and feel they have to act or are pressured into acting and in desperation dismiss him for "breach of contract" realizing perhaps that if Laudrup continued and then beat Cardiff (which is most likely since they were crap), it would be "politically" impossible to dismiss him. I don't know if granting the board political acumen is justified .... but I think you get my drift.

    All of the above is conjecture on my part. But since others on other articles have freely dabbled in hearsay and innuendo to color between their lines, I thought I'd pick out my own crayolas and have a go too. At least I have a formal statement in my coloring box.

    More to come from both sides - no doubt.
     
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  2. Terror ball

    Terror ball Well-Known Member

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    Bony will finish this season with nearly 50 starts and 7ish substitute appearances (providing we are knocked out of the Europa and he doesn't get more injuries.
    This figure despite turning up late, carrying an injury, being out injured for a few weeks with an injury once he had got going and despite being protected by Laudrup.
    Work it out.

    The club had a fitness coach who concentrated on fitness with the ball. There also had to be a number of rest days built in due to playing 2 games a week.
    If Monk and his mates didn't think that was good enough tough ****. He wasn't paid to make the decisions. If he and others really felt strongly about it they could have done extra training themselves. Yes.

    A completely different scenario to Bony turning up injured and being put on his own regime that.

    If you disagree with something I've written you could try addressing me.
     
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  3. Terror ball

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    I too find myself repulsed by the sheer ingratitude and disrespect by so many.

    How many were outside the Brangwyn Hall singing the man's praises on the proudest day in our club's history?
    A time I'm sure Laudrup thought he would look back on and cherish as most of us do.
    Completely soured now pointlessly by cretins.
    If you are going to fire somebody do it properly and have the balls and the politeness/respect to do it face to face.
    END OF.
     
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  4. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    We will never know what happened , Laudrup will recieve about 7 million £ , that can't be disclosed to save Huw embaressment . Players will want to come to the club a lot less than before and no one will trust a Huw Jenkins handshake again . We have a long hard summer ahead of us so lets try to enjoy the rest of our dream season , turned nightmare
     
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  5. Shaper

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    This and... ...nope! Just this.
     
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  6. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    .......Exactly, getting really boring now, spot on swan&only!................<ok>
     
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  7. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I can't remember a sacked manager calling for a Press conference before, is this a first?






    He must have one hell of an ego? Why call it when you can't answer most of the questions?.......................<doh>
     
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  8. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    Because Dragon, he has nothing to hide it seems, unlike our board who have failed other than to leak stories of why they sacked ML. What was their reason, because the ethics of the club were being lost, that has nothing to do with training, and was very vague, yet ML, who has at least give us something proper to discuss, as in the training staff reasons, is someone with an ego for calling a press conference.

    Also Dragon, as for this little pearler:
    The reason ML is trying to take it further, as under a breach of contract the club are trying to get away with NOT PAYING any compensation, something he HAS EVERY RIGHT to take further. So nop this is nothing like the Sousa situation, as Sousa was never out of pocket because of it. It is a new route being taken by clubs so that they can sack a manager and get away with not paying, which is why he said that Alex Ferguson, and Linekaer (?? cant remember the other name right now) said that clubs were now going down this route.

    And if the club is in the wrong, then he has every ****ing right to protect his own future by taking us to the bloody cleaners. I love this club, but if it is being run by inept businessmen trying to save a few pennies by being disgusting businessmen, then they need to answer for it. Because as much as I reap praise on them for what they did to save our club, I am not about to stand by whilst they go and ****ing ruin it as well.

    As for those claiming its getting boring now, well it would for those in the pro board camp, because they are starting to have to actually back their decisions to back the boards choices, and its getting tougher. Where as those who have supported the Laudrup side of the arguement, (doesn't mean we are against the club/monk, we just don't like how it was done) now have something we can use, and you don't like it, no surprises there tbh.
     
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  9. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    Reading all these posts, rumours and Laudrup's interview and Q and A, this I fear is going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better :emoticon-0101-sadsm

    Also, Laudrup refusing to change his staff surely isn't a breach of contract Is it? If it is deemed so, does that not make HJ any worse than Tan? I hope to God the club have their reasons for sacking him, as the club MUST come out of this unscathed if we are to attract quality managers in the future.
     
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  10. Cherry Jack

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    Oh come on, the majority of us thought he was gone in the summer, if not the vast majority. We've been saying this for ages.
     
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  11. Sbulby

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    As you said cherry jack people thought ML would be gone but nobody except ML himself knows the answer to this question. Many thought he would leave at the end of last season but he stayed. In my opinion the club have tried to pull a fast one and avoid paying compensation, if this is proved correct then every one of that board need to hang thier heads in shame. I love this club, a club which has been revered all over the world for the way the club is run, those standards need to be maintained, so pay up his contract in full and put this ghastly episode to bed. The longer it goes on the worse it's going to get.
     
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  12. ivoralljack

    ivoralljack Well-Known Member

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    Not changed my mind at all. When I do, I acknowledge it..... unlike some on here. Two different points: Bony WASN'T match fit early season and needed a special training programme which he got.

    When Bony was match fit, I thought he should be starting and mentioned the stats that proved it. I have always said that Laudrup made some mistakes (which manager doesn't?) and not playing Bony sooner was one of them. IMO.
     
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  13. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    yes the majority did but the only one who knew for certain was the man himself ,who knows when he said he wanted to stay was part of the "act" but I take people at face value until proved otherwise .Because we said it doesn't make it so ,does it .
     
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  14. Cherry Jack

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    No, but just because he says it, does not mean it is so either - he's just as likely to be throwing that claim in to try and make the board look worse.

    The point is that the bit of his statement claiming he wanted to stay for another year is utterly pointless as we can never know if he's telling the truth or not, nor is it even relevant anyway.
     
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  15. ivoralljack

    ivoralljack Well-Known Member

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    For me Michael Laudrup is a man of the highest integrity known for his honesty. Rodgers was full of BS; Martinez knifed us in the back after clandestine dirty dealings with dodgy Dave so, if Laudrup says he wanted to stay, I believe him.

    His detractors have rubbished his work for us (their prerogative), do they now intend to start on his reputation? Irrelevant now in any event so let's not compound Jenkins' shabby action by going down this route.
     
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  16. BobbyD

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    Laudrup may have stayed or may not have stayed. Obviously he will be saying he was planning on staying but things can change quickly in football (lets say if he was offered the barca job). However, we know that Laudrup is a man of integrity so far. He apparantly had a lot of offers over the summer for a few jobs yet he refused them and stayed at Swansea.
     
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  17. LIBERTARIAN

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    Not so long ago,I posted to the effect that Laudrup was being hailed as "The Great Dane",but would soon be referred to as that "Danish c**t Laudrup".
    Seems I got that one right.

    Football fans' can be so numbingly predictable in the way they change allegiances at the drop of a hat,with memories as short as the hair on Jonjo Shelvey's head!!!
    No class,style or substance on display with many of them.

    One thing is for certain,our ex Manager has loads of class,an excess of style,and oozes integrity.

    The nature of his dismissal has diminished Swansea City F.C.

    In my humble opinion.
     
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  18. ValleyGraduate12

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    Unless they had good reason too. Hopefully, the rumours we heard in the lead up to his sacking are true, as should it be known that ML was sacked on a whim, then we will struggle to appoint quality managers in the future, and given the way this has been handled, it will need these rumours to be true for the club to come out unscathed, as any other reason/reasons won't repair any possible taint that this episode has had on the club.
     
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  19. Sbulby

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    ML's agent is now saying he (ML) is close to a compensation deal with Swansea, let's hope both sides have seen sense and are negotiating a settlement. A quick end to this distraction would be in the best interest of everyone.
     
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  20. plasticfan

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    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

    Get over it guys. He's gone and he's not coming back.
     
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