Laudrup Meeting

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define fail
"be unsuccessful in achieving one's goal."

ML's goal was to sign Aspas, agree?

Did we achieve ML's goal? No, right.

So what does that mean, we failed to sign Aspas.

define failure
"lack of success."

Did we succeed in signing Aspas? No, right. So it was a failure. You can put the spin on it that we lost out against Liverpool, and you have a point, but it doesn't deter from teh fact we were unsuccessful in signing Aspas. So therefore, failed.

ITs understandable that we failed, because Liverpool beat us too, but we still failed regardless.



Wow!!! If I respond to this we'll be here all night.
 
Agree with Rambling Jack on this one the board obviously wanted rid but didn't want to pay up ML's contract in full, hence the breach of contract scenario. I don't know what it is with HJ but he never wants to pay up, remember the Priskin saga a few years back the best way forward for everyone would be to pay up his contract in full and move on otherwise this saga will rumble on. What I am surprised at is that a man of Laudrups standing was dismissed by e mail only a few hours after meeting. Secondly he was not allowed to say his farewells to the players.
 
Agree with Rambling Jack on this one the board obviously wanted rid but didn't want to pay up ML's contract in full, hence the breach of contract scenario. I don't know what it is with HJ but he never wants to pay up, remember the Priskin saga a few years back the best way forward for everyone would be to pay up his contract in full and move on otherwise this saga will rumble on. What I am surprised at is that a man of Laudrups standing was dismissed by e mail only a few hours after meeting. Secondly he was not allowed to say his farewells to the players.

Agree, really not one of Huw's finer moments that. Considering Huw's relatively good way with the press you'd think he'd be able to handle exits a bit better.
 
Swan why did he need to Bring any of that up. That was in june/july, not sure of the relevence in his sacking. The club spent quite heavily for us in the summer. For me there was plenty of financial backing for ML. you cant always get what you want and have to go for alternatives.
I just dont see anything different in this situation to most other sackings. Board arent happy so they get rid and move on and ML ends up with a heafty pay off.
Have to agree with Nottage though does sound very similar to what went on and how he left previous clubs.
 
the board obviously wanted rid but didn't want to pay up ML's contract in full, hence the breach of contract scenario.

Agreed <ok>


What I am surprised at is that a man of Laudrups standing was dismissed by e mail only a few hours after meeting.

Agreed <ok>

What I am surprised at is.... he was not allowed to say his farewells to the players.

Ah, failed at the last hurdle :emoticon-0110-tongu . I actually agree with HJ on this one,as it would make sense if all the talk about ML's agent had any truth to it.
 
Did Swans' "miss out" on Aspas? Once Liverpool showed interest,he was surely only going to one place,and that wasn't The Liberty.

And I'm glad we missed out. Hasn't exactly been good for them. Also if we signed up to play up front, would we have signed Bony?
 
Sounds to me like Huw has felt that the training has needed amending (for whatever reason) for a while. That would support the rumour that he hasn't always trained the squad vigorously enough.

Also, he could have been nicer about the Bony question. It would have taken nothing to be nice about the guy, but instead he's refused to say he even wanted him. Trouble indeed.
 
Well having just got home and read it again, the only conclusions we can draw from this is that
1. Laudrup wasn't happy we didn't get his targets in the summer
2. He refused to add/change his coaching staff on three occasions
3. There was no need to hold this press conference as it served no purpose other than a shop window opportunity for himself.
 
Are the club planning on making a statement? I'd really like to see what their version of events is in full because I find it hard to believe that they'd let this sort of statement go unresponded to, whether it's true or not. I'm rather suspicious of the version of events outlined the more I read it.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about that twat agent. How much do you want to be he had something to do with the issues?
 
Sounds to me like Huw has felt that the training has needed amending (for whatever reason) for a while. That would support the rumour that he hasn't always trained the squad vigorously enough.

Also, he could have been nicer about the Bony question. It would have taken nothing to be nice about the guy, but instead he's refused to say he even wanted him
. Trouble indeed.

I'm glad about this because I've brought up the fact that Bony wasn't his signing a few times on here. Let's be honest, Bony v Aspas = Huw Jenkins made the correct decision.
For me it also sheds light on the reason why he never started Bony against the big clubs, a decision which infuriated me, and why Michu injured was a good thing in a way as it forced Laudrup to try and change his tactics to feed Bony the ball.
 
Are the club planning on making a statement? I'd really like to see what their version of events is in full because I find it hard to believe that they'd let this sort of statement go unresponded to, whether it's true or not. I'm rather suspicious of the version of events outlined the more I read it.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about that twat agent. How much do you want to be he had something to do with the issues?

I wonder whether they will remain silent as to where they are, as there may be legal action.
 
Are the club planning on making a statement? I'd really like to see what their version of events is in full because I find it hard to believe that they'd let this sort of statement go unresponded to, whether it's true or not. I'm rather suspicious of the version of events outlined the more I read it.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about that t**t agent. How much do you want to be he had something to do with the issues?

I am uncertain as to what there is for the Board to respond to? In my opinion ML isn't actually saying that much at all, apart from how well his first season was. All just a PR exercise for ML. totally waste of media time, but they will make something of it I am sure.
 
Are the club planning on making a statement? I'd really like to see what their version of events is in full because I find it hard to believe that they'd let this sort of statement go unresponded to, whether it's true or not. I'm rather suspicious of the version of events outlined the more I read it.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about that twat agent. How much do you want to be he had something to do with the issues?

I don't see how they can at the moment as the only way to counteract the statement would be to lift the lid on what happened and I'm not sure that can be done at the moment due to the legal side of things.
I could be wrong though.
 
I'm glad about this because I've brought up the fact that Bony wasn't his signing a few times on here. Let's be honest, Bony v Aspas = Huw Jenkins made the correct decision.
For me it also sheds light on the reason why he never started Bony against the big clubs, a decision which infuriated me, and why Michu injured was a good thing in a way as it forced Laudrup to try and change his tactics to feed Bony the ball.

Have to agree with this valley.
 
The other reason I want to see a board reaction actually is because if they are in the right, like they will inevitably claim, why aren't they putting up a better bloody media fight? The press have been on the club from the start because ML is a media darling.
 
....Bony wasn't his (ML) signing ..... Let's be honest, Bony v Aspas = Huw Jenkins made the correct decision.
For me it also sheds light on the reason why he never started Bony against the big clubs, a decision which infuriated me, and why Michu injured was a good thing in a way as it forced Laudrup to try and change his tactics to feed Bony the ball.

<ok> Totally agree
 
I don't see how they can at the moment as the only way to counteract the statement would be to lift the lid on what happened and I'm not sure that can be done at the moment due to the legal side of things.
I could be wrong though.

True, I just wish they could get it out there so we can make our mind up - and when I say make our mind up I mean critically think it through while considering both sides of it, not just acting on confirmation bias in favour of ML or against him like some seem to be determined to do at the moment.
 
I'm glad about this because I've brought up the fact that Bony wasn't his signing a few times on here. Let's be honest, Bony v Aspas = Huw Jenkins made the correct decision.
For me it also sheds light on the reason why he never started Bony against the big clubs, a decision which infuriated me, and why Michu injured was a good thing in a way as it forced Laudrup to try and change his tactics to feed Bony the ball.

What are you guys on about? Clearly Huw was not happy spending 12m on Bony as he said at the supporters meeting which indicates pretty stronly that he wasn't Huw's man. And the fact that laudrup didn't play Bony in every game 90 minutes was, as laudrup explained numourus times, to let Bony settle in, new culture, new level etc. easing him in which is a pretty f#cking normal thing to do when a club gets a new player who never played in the league before.

I've never seen so much disrespect and smear thrown at a manager ever it's discusting.