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Is this really what Swansea has come to?

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Jack Uzi, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. Kwame B

    Kwame B Well-Known Member

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    "Pundits such as Roy Keene labelling the club as shameful, a sad inditement of where we are."

    I'd be far more concerned if keano had anything good to say about us.
     
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  2. swanselona

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    They are important, of course, but people didn't give ML the time of day when he was dealing with a much bigger injury list, yet people are using 3 injuries to justify GM's line up choices. Those 3 players are what we would call our AM's right now, a role which Pablo has been filling in for, so what about the other 10 positions on the pitch.

    The only thing Monk got right for me yesterday was swapping Dyer and Routs around to spread the load on them.

    Tremmel took over the first team keeper role due to our actual first choice keeper being injured, does not make Tremmel the first team keeper.

    Graham was never back up to Michu. But he was sold due to what many believe were behind the scene's issues. But backup, no chance. Bony afterall has appeareared in on 8 extra games (31) than Graham did (23) (whilst we are in Feb too, so extra games have been played) whilst also playing in an extra competition which has provided us with an extra 10 games this season.

    As for if ML had did it, then yes, they would, as I was critical of ML's team choice at Anfield last season. Hence why I am also critical of GM's choice this season.
     
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  3. swans-m

    swans-m Well-Known Member

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    He brought on Leroy Lita. Any manager who does that deserves a good ribbing if you ask me.
    That team we fielded yesterday has mustered a woeful 8 goals between them all season. Yet we were expecting to compete with a full strength Everton? Threw the game away and threw away a chance to be in the quaters.
    Monk should have shown more faith in the ability of his squad to survive in the prem even with the extra games.
    If we lose to Napoli on Thursday now then what would it have all been for?
     
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  4. mikraswan

    mikraswan Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you'll justify an exit from europaleague (when will Swansea play that tournament again) too...
     
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  5. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    We did compete well with a full strength Everton. The reason for the defeat was due to an awful back pass from Taylor. Who a lot of people put in their team in their best 11 thread. This is not the first time a club has fielded a weakened team for a cup game and it certainly wont be the last.. So what every club does it. who is to say a so called stronger side would have won this game.
    I remeber traveling to wigan under rodgers in the cup and he made massive changes. That was a game for us to get back at martinez after he left us. Thats what happens. Just dont understand all the fuss. A club plays a weakened team in the cup. Jesus it is hardly front page news is it.
    The priority of the club is to stay in the PL and if we have to do what we did yesterday to remain there, then i have no issues with it.
     
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  6. mustyfrog

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    not at all Mikra I want the strongest side out there v Napoli, crap v Liverpool and hammer Palace with the best we can put out. I think you misread my post as I meant to say Monk had made his priority the Napoli game after the **** side that played Everton
     
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  7. roofjack_22

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    There is a difference between a weakened team and a totally weak team trunds, in an FA Cup game that could send the team to the quarter finals .In hind sight I suppose the team played ok against a stronger Everton squad who played crap really . Under the same hindsight , if we put any kind of first team together , we probably would have advanced .
     
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  8. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    We put a strong team out against WHU and got nothing. The team performed quite well yesterday and gave Everton a shock early on. Playing other players would not have guarenteed anything at all. The team put out yesterday has over 100 appearances for the swans this season (admittedly some from the bench) Football is now a squad game and we have to use it for certain games. We lost away from home to a side in the top 7 in a season where we have struggled. I just dont get all the rantings over this.

    Lets not forget we have played strong sides against them before and got nothing from the games. At least yesterday a Swansea player managed to score against them for the first time in the PL. The fault for yesterdays defeat lies with the absolutely appalling back pass that let in Naismith.
     
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  9. roofjack_22

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    The defence yesterday had less than 10 games in the Premier this season combined, Lamah had 3 starts and a Vasquez had 5 starts.And West Ham are one of the hottest teams right now and will be fighting for 10 place in the "best of the rest " . In hindsight , Everton played bad with a good team , we played good with a bad team and lost 3-1 . A good chance if we fielded a better team , we would have had a favorable result
     
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  10. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Thats a crazy assumption, We could say if we played a stronger side Everton would have picked their game up and beaten us 3-1. We played the team we did, that was weakened team yes. But so what, our priority is and always should be to maintain PL status. As for WHU they are playing well now, But the performance by the so called better players we put out. Was toothless and embarassing that day and ultimately cost ML his job.
     
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  11. roofjack_22

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    No crazier than putting that "extremely " weak team out and saying they did ok because Everton underachieved . We are not that loved team that neutral flocked to anymore , and the manner in which Laudrup was sacked ,5th round FA Cup selections like yesterday and leaked stories to the media by the board are responsable.
     
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  12. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Who gives 2 hoots for the Neutrals. I and you along with all true swansea fans are what i care about. Remaining in the PL is what i care about. Not ifs and buts, if you want to work that way we could have played a strong side lost and ended up with Bony injured. We can all summise. What GM did yesterday was done to try and ensure we are strong for our PL fight.
    What also is the manner in which ML has been sacked. He has been sacked as was RM at Fulham as was AVB at spurs as many other have been and will be. This is football and sackings are part of it. Lets move on.
    How did Everton underachieve, perhaps and just perhaps they played that way because our players made it difficult for them.
     
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  13. ValleyGraduate12

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    Mikra what about ML loser attitude with regards to two/three tiers in the Premier League? As for playing lower leagues again, we have a much better chance of making sure that doesn't happen under Monk.

    For me, with 7 games in 21 days, the FA Cup was the least important on the fixture pile up, and we played really well for 60 minutes. Hell fire mun you would think we were battered.
    We know now that we have decent cover in every position when a full squad is together and that everybody is believing in what Monk is trying to do. A lot of positives from the performance to take yesterday, I.e. Bartley, who I thought was streets ahead of Amat yesterday.
     
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  14. Shaper

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    We still seem to be having the "should we go for all the cups" or "should we make the league our top priority" debate. My feeling is that we are terribly unlikely to win either cup and we are running an outside chance of a horrible relegation battle. On that basis, Monk did the right thing.
    Winning a cup would be nice, but we don't have the squad.
     
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  15. roofjack_22

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    It's becoming more and more apparent that Monk is doing exacly what he's told , just like Huw planned.
     
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  16. Jack Uzi

    Jack Uzi Active Member

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    Is it really?

    I doubt Garry or Huw will be losing any sleep over what a failed championship manager has to say.
     
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  17. ValleyGraduate12

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    Evidence please?
     
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  18. Jack Uzi

    Jack Uzi Active Member

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    But you'll never know because you'll be following whatever team Laudrup is currently managing.

    Hopefully tomorrow's press meeting is an announcement that he's going to manage another club so you can go and infest someone else's forum.

    Bye bye.
     
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  19. ValleyGraduate12

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    Agree, prem safety is the priority. Anything else is a bonus. Laudrup saw cup/euro success as a priority to further his own reputation.
     
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  20. roofjack_22

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    Evidence please valley
     
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