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Official Match Thread: v Arsenal (A) FA Cup Fifth Round

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by astro, Feb 13, 2014.

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Result

Poll closed Feb 16, 2014.
  1. Arsenal win

    36.4%
  2. Draw

    27.3%
  3. Liverpool win

    36.4%
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  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    If you say so.
     
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  2. If you disagree on a point or have a bit of banter, it doesn't automatically mean they are a wum.


    Any way, back on topic. Liverpool are a completely different outfit away from home so I can't anything beyond a result for Arsenal. That may include a draw but I can't see it <ok>
     
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  3. CCC

    CCC Poet Laureate

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    I agree, G. I think because I doubt I'll be able to catch the game, I really want to watch this game! Regardless of the result. Which, it has to be said, I'm slightly more pessimistic for. Not as pessimistic as I was for the Fulham game, but still ...
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying you're a WUM. I'm saying every now and then you make WUMmish comments. Foredeckdave is a WUM. You're not.


    I really can't see how we're going to score goals as we just don't look like doing it at all at the moment. Completely 50-50 in my book at the moment.
     
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  5. Although we set up in a crazy system, you guys battered us at The Emirates earlier in the season. For whatever reason you see fit, we batter you guys at Anfield. The advantage in these games must surely go to the home side?
     
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  6. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Even then I wouldn't call our win at the Emirates a 'battering'. Even our 4-0 against Coventry wasn't a battering. We just managed to carve through intricately against them and score 4 goals. We haven't really battered any team for ages like we used to. I remember in 97/98 season it got the point at the end of the season where we were scoring 3-4 goals in the first half hour of 5-10 games in a row. Completely overwhelming opposition like you did at the weekend against us.

    In 01/02 we battered Boro, Fulham, Leicester etc with pace and power.

    In 03/04 we never lost a game and near enough outplayed every team in the PL, absolutely dominated quite a few games and stuck 4 and 5 past several teams.

    Nowadays there's no real pace or power to overwhelm and intimidate teams. All we've got is very intricate passing and movement which gets through most teams a couple of times a match which allows us to score a couple of times a match. Every now and then it doesn't work (ie. against managers who are good enough to set their team up to stop it, or against teams who just play better).
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    pah... arsenal fans wishing...

    they came with their a game and got blown away. they just didn't perform. there is no evidence form the utd game to say they suddenly have pep in thier step.

    It'll be a tough game cos frankly if it were accrington stanley away LFC would still be bad. we are poor on the road form the evidence built up now. before christmas i put a few down to internationals getting in the way but we've been consistently stupid on the road.



    anyway the le'arse accusing a moderator and dave of being a wum is probably better off back on his own board stroking dubbed bruised ego than here if he can tell who's a proper fan or not.

    Arsenal = opps its february. IF they can't beat up a chihuahua then whats the points <laugh>
     
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  8. From a Liverpool perspective the game at The Emirates was one of our worst games of the season so perhaps we see it as a battering but you guys don't?

    Reason being, none of our team performed. However, I can't claim that it was us that made you guys look bad last weekend and then claim we had a off day at your place. I think in both circumstances, its a combination of both.
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    If you are going to make accusations then be exact about them. You know very little about the nature and tone of my posting on this board (or any other boards come to think of it) and yet you calculate that 97-98% of my posts are wums. When you've done your homework properly then you can come back and attempt to prove your point. If you can't do that then an apology is in order.
     
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  10. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Do you mind? I'm trying to chat amicably about football with Gerrez who can offer some interesting points.

    What for? I think you're a WUM. It's my opinion.

    Unfortunately that's not true.

    Maybe closer to 93.6%

    Good luck with that.
     
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  11. cini65

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    It was very similar to our win against Spurs in the last round. Comfortable 2-0, never really in danger, but we hardly sliced through you (or them) consistently because we just don't seem to have the players to do that at the moment (not entirely convinced Walcott will come back from this knee and be as dangerous as he was before but we'll see).

    I'm not really griping... we're in a better position than in previous years (currently, could all change)... I'm just frustrated at the style of play that we seem to be slowly creeping towards that seems too easy to stop by better teams (almost like Spain in WC 2010 when they had loads of possession in every game but rarely did anything with it and scraped through the games by a goal or two). If only we could actually win something like Spain do.
     
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  12. Can't see too many complaining about player like the 2010 Spain (or Barca effectively) team <laugh>

    You guys were playing some fantastic football at the start of the season and Walcott wasn't involved then either. Not sure if you know this, but I'm not exactly a big Theo fan. I think he relies far too much on his pace. If the injury effects his pace as suspected, he will be half the player he was much like what happened with Michael Owen.
     
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  13. cini65

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    I need google translate to understand most of that.

    a) We came with our 'a game' but didn't perform? How is that our 'a game' then? Contradictory.

    b) I don't think you'll find many Arsenal fans apart from Toldeo who thinks Arsenal have a spring in their step again

    c) Already building up your excuse that if Arsenal win then it's because Liverpool are poor on the road rather than Arsenal being good eh?

    d) I didn't accuse Gerrez of being a WUM, just of making WUM comments every now and then

    e) No idea what you're last line means
     
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  14. cini65

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    No, as soon as I read that back I thought I hadn't made it clear enough what I meant.:biggrin:

    If we were really like the Spain 2010 I'd love it because we'd win trophies. But I distinctly remember watching them and thinking, "urgh, boring... this is a bit dull and tippy tappy and no real pace, just intricate passing". So in that way it's kind of like us... except we're not as good at it as them and don't win anything.
     
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  15. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    There you are folks yet another childish ill-informed idiot making claims that they can't back-up and then falling back upon the "it's my opinion" disclaimer!

    Now I can't comment upon the ethos of the Arsenal board but I can, with some certainty, claim that on this board posters are man enough to recognise when they have got their facts wrong.
     
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  16. cini65

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    I'd say earlier in the season we had Ramsey's running too. He wasn't static and relied on movement to create problems. We don't have that now. Walcott introduced the same dimension. Regardless of whether opposition fans rate him (which many don't) he still offers raw pace and nowadays has a mean shot on him so was one of our main goal threats. We now have no runners from midfield (Ramsey) picking up layoffs, and no pace on the wing to cut inside and get behind defences (Walcott). So all our posession is played out slowly between Ozil, Cazorla and Wilshere who spend their time looking for the one perfect layoff... which rarely ever happens because they've only got a French donkey to aim for.
     
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  17. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Comedy. A HIAG who doesn't know it :)
     
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  18. I was about to say Ozil was playing well at first but he's gone off the boil since. Perhaps the lack of runners you suggest is the reason as you can't make a quality pass if there is no one to pass to. Takes two to make a pass much like it takes two to make a cross etc.

    I really rate Ozil, Cazorla and Wilshire but perhaps they are too similar to all be in the same side?
     
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  19. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Cazorla and Ozil need to play CAM so Wenger has to make them fight for the spot. Unfortunately I don't think he has the balls to do that. Ramsey has got to play CM with a DM (which at the moment has to be Flamini but we need someone new like Bender). Wilshere is actually pretty good at making runs from the wing so is an OK wing forward as long as we have some pace on the other wing. But he's not consistently good enough with the ball to play CM.
     
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  20. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Your parents did a very poor job in developing your moral compass. Have some self-repect. You've been asked to prove a 'fact' that you have failed to do and then you fall back on sarcasm. Sad really
     
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