Did curbs have that support? No he got roundly mugged off by the same guilt ridden plastics that phoned up 606 each week, "Timothy from blackheath, what do you wanna say? Curbs Is not taking us anywhere" So my point remains. Pardew was just a dick.
Curbs had the support of the majority of Charlton fans. The minority of idiots who wanted him gone were the ones who shouted loudest and got airtime on 606, as the louder and more controversial voices often do. We support Powell because of his record. Not because of any 'middle-class guilt'. You can't prove otherwise, because that's how it is. Pardew was indeed a massive dick.
When you say record, your referring to what? Winning a pub league? Two seasons ago, with 101 points woopey fackey doo, that is like winning a bottle of shampoo at the church raffle. How many seasons is he gonna live off that? When do we stop supporting Powell (Sir Chris if that don't tell you how arse licked he nothing will) and support the club. The bloke failed. It's no shame or crime but to ignore it is.
Winning League 1 was a big achievement. It's not a pub league, it's the 3rd best league in England. He also got us to 9th last year on a small budget. That's a big achievement too. So he didn't fail. Failure would have been not getting us out of League 1. Staying up this season would be success given our circumstances.
Of course, Franco. I never shy away from the truth. After surviving myriad traumas and tragedies in my life, I now have a monstrous superiority complex. Must be my Saxon blood. As for class, I think Chris Powell has it in spades, and I wish him well in his future endeavours.
You have to give him credit for the fact that we played a lot of neat passing football in the midfield On the other hand....... He went to great lengths to re-sign Evina in the summer, possibly our worst player today He brought on Danny Green, who gave away the ball for their 2nd goal Cousins out of position Sordell was on the pitch for over an hour. Managers usually stand or fall by the players they sign, but he doesn't sign them any more.Roland will assume that they must be good enough players to get results, because they were recommended by his scouting network, so if results are not forthcoming I expect him to wield the axe, right or wrong.
What circumstances? Is not like we are Somalian refugees or from Erith. We have a crap squad granted but no worse than 15 other clubs in this league. It is generally accepted that 9th is failure. if your looking to get promoted, as is 23rd or whatever we are now, that is failing mate. What next? Staying up is not what we gonna do given that we have Stevie Wonder trying to put players in wrong positions. Where is the passion? The underdog spirit. The cafc way? Stop making excuses it's sounding like the apologistics on CL now, "sir Chris should get the job for the next 30 years cos he is really nice and the 50 players that he picked,asked for and loaned in are all useless". I see michael smith had another stormer today.... He is a failure in an now results business.
So at the end of last season you though Powell had failed by getting us to 9th? Seriously? Were we realistically looking to get promoted this season? We lost Fuller, Haynes, have missed Solly and Wiggins through injury and now have lost Yann and Dale. The squad was already poor by Championship standards because we haven't had the money to get better players in. If we do go down I will understand if Powell is sacked, but equally I will understand if he isn't, just like Curbs wasn't in 1999. You call them 'excuses', I call them 'reasons'. And no, I won't stop putting forward my reasons.
Lads, it's contrasting views and opinions that make football and this board great. I feel very in different re the future of Chris Powell. If he goes he goes, if he stays he stays. After all, there's never any guarantee that with a new manager comes instant success. Does anyone have any info on our new owners track record where hiring and firing managers is concerned. I mean, when taking over one of his other clubs has he wielded the axe and brought his own man in...?
I am in total agreement with leaburns legs am not middleclass have been goin down the valley since 1970 and am in full support of chris Powell I don't drink bovril and applauded the team off at the end. Couldn't fault their effort and lovin the fact that we are playing cousins and Poyet. Yan and dale were our best players along with wiggins and solly. The first two are gone the other two injured... That's football. The new signings impressed me Poyet immense . If we go down we have the makings of a team to bring us back new owners all is not doom and gloom.
Anybody who watches the youth teams will know how how good Poyet is. I've been looking forward for ages to seeing him in the first team, and what a pleasure it was to watch his composed play. I said that when he got into the team he would be there to stay, and stand by that. And he will get better, so if we do go down I'll be gutted if we sell him. I'm not deluded enough to think he'll be here for the next 10 years, but I at least hope that we can hang on to him until he is the finished article. I have hopes that Roland will make more effort to hold on to him than Richard Murray did when we had Shelvey. We will see.
For those who sight Cousins playing out of position as evidence of Powell's incompetence and failure, you'd have done what with Poyet yesterday because that is Cousins position?
In the under-21's Poyet and Cousins played together in front of the back 4, and it worked very well. Bradley Jordan had a free role in front of them, and we had a front 3 out of Harriott, Smith, Pigott and Azeez. It was a formation in which the astute Nathan Jones got the best out of everyone by playing to their strengths, you only need to look at his record to see this.
I've come up with my reasons, you disagree with them. We'll have to leave it there I guess. Until the next game...
Unfortunately at the end of the day you have your concrete reasons for sacking Powell whilst others have their concrete reasons for keeping him... As those reasons are set in stone both parties are gonna have to agree to disagree, however much we write we cant force the other party to change their mind!!
Roland's a better businessman; I'm confident he'll keep the likes of Poyet and Cousins all the while they are safely under contract and their values rising.
@ Captain Here is a compelling reason to sack Powell - today. He is a lame duck and everyone knows he will be gone this summer, players included. We have all had bosses at work who we know are retiring or leaving, and it is human nature to stop trying so hard or making that extra bit of effort when you know they won't be affecting your pay packet for much longer. Everyone says what a great man manager Powell is but compare his body language to that of Lee Clark on the touchline yesterday. I know which set of players were grafting their gonads off for their gaffer, and they were not wearing red shirts.
I am struggling how people fink excuses as the same as reasons. An excuse is not the same as a reason. I have not seen a concrete reason to keep him just excuses for not sacking him. I am looking for someone to provide me with a reason he should keep his job. If Derek Hales or Steve Brown was in CP shoes what would you do? Would your attitudes be different? 100% support for Charlton
That's fair enough. If RD is going to get rid of him in the Summer, then he will be aware of this effect of the soon-to-be-departing boss. Surely RD should therefore sack him now if he feels we're going down if we keep him? This malaise is less Powell's fault than his. I don't think Powell wants to go, as he feels he can keep us up. I think the players have a lot of affection for Powell (the new ones maybe less so), so if you say they're not working as hard for him as they should be, then that's a worry. My position is that Powell can keep us up. But if RD thinks differently, he has to sack him now. It's up to him.
