-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Join Date:Jun 2011 Posts:55 Points:168 Level:3Rep Power:0 Part 2 - Champions league football Why should he take the gamble? Spurs will struggle to qualify again this year especially with Liverpool back in the mix. Is Modric is good enough for the CL? Clearly. Why will Spurs struggle? On what do you base this claim? Modric was OK in the CL - he didn't set it alight, unlike other players of English sides. I base it on the obvious. Again, your veiled obstructions add nothing to the debate. You failed to get in this year and have failed to improve your team thus far. Therefore on what basis are you going to finish above the 4 that did last year plus a resurgent liverpool. You will struggle. Clearly - why? Becuase i've watched him and can see he is good enough. You got to the quarters and he is probably your best player therefore he must be good enough. - A chance to compete for the biggest trophies Yes they 'compete' but Chelsea provides a bigger chance of winning said trophies. There was no shotting me out the water, you're just an idiot if you cant understand there is different levels of competing. Did Blackpool compete for the PL no. Did they compete in it yes. Again your response is to pick holes in the wording when you can't respond to the actual point being who has a better chance of winning trophies for the forseable, chelsea or spurs? Now, how many trophies did Chelsea win last season? Yup, zero, none, zilch - if he wanted to win trophies he would have gone to United, City or even Birmingham. Again your comment is a nonsense. So he should go to a relegated club with no manager to win trophies. Good point. Last year was our worst season since roman came in and we still finished 3 places above you. Modric can see that even if you cant. More money He would be on more money and a nice signing on bonus to boot. Verifiable evidence to support the above claim else it's just speculation. And if you believe otherwise you are a fool. - To step out of Arsenal's shadow Your response is so funny it hurts. Your really are bitter about arsenal aren't you!!! Lets hope Modric aint for your sake aye. Bitter about arsenal - oh do grow up. Why should anyone care about a team they don't follow? I am right though - you have won the same number of European trophies as them haven't you - it is just the 2? How many league titles have you won, is it less than us and arsenal. Thought so. None of us have won the european trophy that matters so maybe we are all smaller clubs than Notts Forest then??? The irony of telling me to grow up is brilliant given it was you that started this 'debate' with your bitter anti chelsea rants. But of course you dont care about other clubs. - To play with World Class player Not to the same level as at chelsea as proven by our success against yours in the last few seasons. So - which is the world class player? Torres? Cech, cole, terry, lampard, malouda, drogba, anelka, torres, essien..... i.e more world class players than you. - To live and play in the beautifull area of West London who cares. Bless - defeat conceded. Its not defeat conceded, its just that all the other points for him coming to us were so compelling that this fell into irrelevance. I've yet to see a point for him staying - please say its becuase he loves spurs so much!!
Torres - I said I would give him more than a few weeks to prove himself. Meaning that I'm not writing him off after a few weeks of average football since Jan. He has at least till the end of this coming season to prove himself in my eyes. This would be me showing you up. Post 72 if you want to check.
And finally from me, please keep pushing the Fulham's second club nonsense when your little club wants so badly to move out of tottenham and relocate to stratford. Quite literally out of Arsenal's shadow...but into Orients!!
A couple of points. Why do Chelsea fans always talk about pre-Abramovich as if the Russian started the massive overspending? It started when Bates persuaded the late Matthew Harding (RIP) to invest in the club. Prior to that they had dwindling attendances, a yo-yo-ing side and a grand total of 4 major honours. In short, they were West Ham without the claret. When did Hotspur Cricket Club form, Piskie? I've only ever seen a date for the formation of the football club.
I dont think even you know what you are saying. I said id give him more than a few weeks (as opposed to rival fans/media so quick to write him off after a mere few weeks). I then further elaborated that the time scale would be to the end of this coming season at least. Jesus wept, can't believe that needs explaining. The only goal posts being moved are the ones at WHL if your chairman gets his way. We're a stones throw from Fulham. D'you think you could throw a stone from Stratford to Tottenham? At least you will be the biggest club in that borough...finally. You've driven this debate so far off topic. Convenient.
And what's wrong with West Ham?? Good proper club, good support, good history, great players over the years. I don't like them as they are a London rival but i would never belittle them.
I'm going to remember this. I think the deluded ones are the Chelsea fans that seem to think they're a big club simply because they have money. Your situation with managers and especially with your recent big-name signing shows your club as having more money than sense, full of money-grabbers that are long past their best. Modric won't go there. That's what this argument is all about. Add this to your signature. He isn't going to Chelsea. Give it a few years too when Roman gives up on Chelsea and we'll see where that leaves your great club. Not bitter, I just hate these people who like 'winning things' and try to rub it into other peoples' faces instead of actually liking football.
Information kindly provided by our old friend Andy Porter (official THFC historian) Hotspur FC were formed two years prior to the cricket club and four years prior to the football club that became THFC.
And they're on Chelsea's natural level. That's probably why you're struggling to sell your season tickets, with them going on sale to members with 0 loyalty points recently. I wasn't insulting them, anyway. I was pointing out that Chelsea's artificially inflated position didn't start with Ambramovich, but with the unfortunate Matthew Harding, who I feel genuinely had the best interests of the club at heart. The spending that started with his investment was unsustainable though, which saw the club on the brink of bankruptcy before being rescued by the dubious Oligarch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich#Alleged_crimes_and_wrongdoing http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4272509.ece
But why do you care so much??? Why do you care if our position is artificially inflated. Would you turn down the investment?? At the moment we are probably the 2nd best side in the country but not the 2nd biggest but you have to make history first. In 20-30 years people may look on clubs like chelsea in the way people look at liverpool now. Liverpool took decades before they had the sustained success that led to their rise as a 'big club'. They also got big investment (relative to the times).
What's a big club? What's a small club? It's all relative. Why is this Hotspur thing relevant, by the way? Arsenal weren't formed as Arsenal, anywhere near where they are now or even in London. Spurs weren't formed in London, either. Neither were West Ham. Chelsea weren't (and aren't) in Chelsea. Ironically, if they actually did move to Chelsea then they might have to rename the club, as they don't own the rights to the name, the Chelsea Pitch Owners PLC do.
It wouldn't be my decision to turn down any investment, but I'd rather not see my club succeed on the back of someone who earned his money through things like the aluminium wars of Russia. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4272585.ece
