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Lallana is good enough to play for Brazil

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  1. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

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    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Now I know my reputation is slipping, but this one is five days old. :)
     
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    They said the same thing about MLT. It was always someone, whose nationality wasn't English, who would say it. It was as true then as this statement is now. That is, it is true. The English under appreciate skill.

    Ah, but did you post it 5 days ago..? ;)
     
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  4. ImpSaint

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    I only posted it because I hadn't seen it on here. Going through online records from 1982 now to see if I can find anything fresh there as well.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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  6. ImpSaint

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    saw that one earlier. lol
     
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    Under-statement of football history. Ok, I may have exaggerated a little :) but TSS this is spot on. For years we have under appreciated it. The comments on another thread were heading to this, I mentioned a few players and I think Chilco added a few too. Hoddle, Le Tiss, Friday, Bowles, Marsh, Curry, Barnes, Waddle.... So many talented and skill full players that England over look or didn't use properly. How many times did Steve McMahon, Steve Hodge, Carlton Palmer and the like get picked instead of some of those?

    Gaston Ramirez?
    Dani Osvaldo? This one only based on a couple of comments on here over the last day or two.
     
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  8. saintlyhero

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    Agree that there is a lack of appreciation for skill players, but i also think there is a lack of appreciation for the art of tackling/defending.

    It's always assumed that if you've got all the on the ball talent, that you should be able to handle the unskilled tasks of the defensive lump but it doesn't work like that. How many yellow cards did Paul Scholes pick up?
    It's a team game and not everyone can be an all rounder. The lines have become more blurred in recent years (ball playing centre backs, high press strikers), but there will always be a differential and that's why players have set positions.

    I guess the moral is to concentrate on the strengths and not the weaknesses.
     
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  9. Joe!

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    In his current form he could play for just about anyone.
     
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    To think, there were people questioning his place in our side earlier this season.haha
     
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    I think the key part of that statement is 'earlier this season'.

    It's not fair to make those people appear to be daft or stupid when Lallana was not hugely impressive last season.
     
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    My point being, he's improved massively, not to make people appear daft or stupid.
     
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    He was disappointing last season...I hadn't realised though that he was struggling with injuries. As they say: form is temporary, class is permanent.
     
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    "Currie", fat, "Currie". Ended up as a taxi driver in Sheffield until United took him back on as Football in the Community coordinator or something in 1990 or so. They've recently dispensed with him.

    My brother, an ardent Blades fan, saw Currie outside the ground about five years ago, went down on one knee and bowed his head. He said to Currie "I've waited all my life to do that" and Currie said (laughing and very genuinely apparently) "It happens to me about once a week!".

    So, some people see quality, unfortunately not the people at the top of English football.

    Vin
     
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    To be fair SF4L he was very, very poor in the first 45 mins against Sunderland at home. A good fan can say when a hero is playing badly and when one they don't like so much is playing well.
     
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    Great story Vin. He was a talent. I still remember the goal in The Big Match... it bent more than that Roberto free-kick for Brazil.
     
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    And (cue my broad Northern accent) that were in't days when footballs were still 'eavy. None of them lightweight balloons they play wi' nowadays.

    Here's a corker, typical: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v9UPUESQwgI#t=265 - I'd embed it but I don't know how.

    Vin
     
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  18. ImpSaint

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    To be fair Le Tissier was very very very poor in many many whole games over many many many seasons..........but he was still the best English footballer of his generation and he should still have been utilised for what he could bring to the team rather than what he didn't.

    Lallana is far more consistent even last year where he had flashes like the second half against Man U away. Different kind of players really because Lallana almost gives you a 'man advantage' when he is on form whereas Le Tiss would just hit goals of wonder and passes of beauty.
     
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  19. TheSecondStain

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    That is the most underwhelming summary of Matt Le Tissier. Hitting goals of wonder and making passes of beauty is what players aspire to. Add in the fact that MLT could beat his direct opponent without the need for outright pace, and was the most unpredictable player to play against, because he was several yards ahead, in his football brain, than anybody else on the field, and you have a fuller description of Him, or Lionel Messi.

    As I said... under appreciating skill.
     
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  20. ImpSaint

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    not under appreciating at all. Like I said....he was the best English footballer of his generation and England should've built the team around him and not Gascoigne.
     
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