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Why such Loyalty.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by St. Luigi Scrosoppi, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. pass the football

    pass the football Well-Known Member

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    Pretty good for those days, and frankly I think I could manage on a quarter of a million pounds a year.
     
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  2. SaintJabie

    SaintJabie Well-Known Member

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    There are ties that bind too. A lot of of youth players have been at Southampton since they were nippers. If you've been footy playing with your mates all your life, and still could, would you really want to move and start all over again?
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    So could I, though I might have to cinch my belt in a bit :)

    The Academy lads in the first team have mentioned how great it is to see their friends in the team. JWP (when a worldly 18) said how important it was to set a good example and help the youngsters <laugh>
     
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  4. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    Remuneration is about more than just salary.

    So, I don't run my business particularly for the money. I run it because I get pleasure at its success and at the fact that I have happy colleagues who earn plenty of cash. Money will no doubt come in the end but it's not my prime motivator.

    Perhaps our players get something on top of the money in the same way I do.

    Vin
     
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  5. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    Where does thatcher come into it?! Are you suggesting Margaret Thatcher is to blame for the cash driven big times charlies occupying the upper echelons of football? Quite a leap!
     
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  6. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.
     
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  7. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    Because clearly there was no such thing as greed or self-interest before 1979.
     
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  8. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Not on the same scale and magnitude or at all levels as the post Thatcher era.
     
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  9. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    Thatcher did a lot of good for people, providing you weren't poor!
     
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  10. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    She does personify a certain brand of economics. Her kind are responsible (for better or for worse) for the way big corporations function today, and pushing a quite selfish approach to life.

    This is true. The whole hippie culture in the 60s was extremely selfish and self-absorbed, in a "we should be able to do whatever we want" kind of way. They weren't fans of the big corporate world at all, but they were a different kind of selfish for sure.
     
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    tiggermaster Well-Known Member

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    Hard to argue with that...

    As for loyalty, who knows the motivation of individuals? Sometimes not even the individual concerned.
     
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  12. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    For better or worse, she dragged Britain into the 20th century and made ordinary people believe that if they work hard they can have everything they want. Very different to today's culture of benefits and the 'pinnacle' of a young lady's life is to 'bag a footballer'
    But I'm not going to get political here as I can see we are poles apart!


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  13. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Think he was on 15K
     
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  14. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    This is more a case of unforeseen consequences. Encouraging enterprise and reward for hard work was followed by creation of risk taking bankers, but that was not the intention. Thatcher loathed the old boy network and would have hated the indecent money earnt by city traders. She was a living example of an outsider who succeeded against the odds. Trying to help desperate people by providing a financial support system has resulted in a benefit culture which has damaged the working class and encouraged out of control immigration, though admittedly some immigrants are more employable than some residents. Unforeseen consequences.
     
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  15. YoshidaBattlesPinkRobots

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    Le Tiss admits in his autobiography that he was set to sign for Spurs (sometime roundabout late 80s/early 90s) but backtracked at the very last minute because his wife at the time didn't want to leave Southampton. He grew up supporting Spurs and idolising Glenn Hoddle and was pretty keen to go by his own admission.

    He also said he liked Southampton's proximity to Guernsey. I got the impression reading it that he wasn't brave enough to move to a big club and risk failing. He was comfortable at Saints and I think it was his laziness as much as his "loyalty" that made him stay.
     
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  16. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    Every PM will have a large amount of hate. People blame the government for everything as it's 'cool' and expect the government to make things perfect for them, when really, it's up to people themselves to do something.
     
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  17. SaintStinger

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    Le Tiss i agree with (and who wouldn't?) but it's only now that the big clubs are sniffing around Adam. Lets wait untill the summer before we call him loyal. I can't think of any others that have stayed long in the same situation.
     
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  18. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, unfortunately it was mainly because of Matt's loyalty to his wife (at the time, at least..!) and not Southampton that he stayed.
     
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  19. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    And its thatcher herself to blame for everyone in the world wanting money, because this never happened before. Ever. We get the picture, you hold left wing beliefs and hate tories.

    Good opportunity for some political debate, crow-barred in a little though.
     
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  20. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    The Tories aren't great, but can you imagine Ed Miliband as PM and Ed Balls as Chancellor? Scary thought.
     
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