UIR - you're strikers are getting old. This season alone has shown that are strikers are better - in every sense of the word. More goals, more assists. That is factual. We've both had strikers out for long periods but SAS are smashing goals in whereas RVP and Rooney simply aren't
God dippers are deluded. Sturridge and sterling over rvp and Rooney. Vidic and carrick are better than anyone in your side too
There is no manager in the world that would pick Sturridge over RVP, and only a delusional scouser would argue otherwise
There is no need to put 'delusional' in front of 'scouser', it's already implied just using 'scouser'.
Sturridge would be fighting it out with Welbeck in our squad. On defence ive decided ours is better. Simply because our rb is Better, vidic is better than your cb and Jones is better looking than any of your defence. Agree on Carrick being in the midfield. Why do people think arsenal have a better squad as well? Did people think this in august? I very much doubt it. Did arsenal suddenly sign loada of different players to tge bottlers I am unaware of or something?
If we're talking about front 2 partnerships than Sturridge and Suarez - on current from piss all over RVP and Rooney. The stats goals/assists back that up by a country mile. Yeah RVP is a better striker than Sturridge, but SAS compliment each other perfectly so in my opinion are the better strike force. Surely a manager that is picking a strike force would chose 2 strikers that read each others games so well and score a shed load of goals. I thought we were picking a team. This might be news to you but a team doesn't automatically click by having the 'best' players playing. It's all about how they play as a partnership. I wasn't trying to say Sturridge is better than RVP, as he isn't. But for a strike force, SAS are the best in the league or at least on par with the main 2 at City.
Shearer and Sutton have retired or have the dippers signed them? Rat and Sturridge are not close to ££££ quality, well rat is, Sturridge is not
How many games have RVP and Suarez played together then? You have no evidence to prove they wouldn't play well together. Generally speaking top players play well together, it's only when you have a talented player with a massive ego that pairing 2 great players together becomes an issue. RVP doesn't have an ego, and despite all of Suarez's other faults, he's a team player on the pitch. So I think they'd work well together
I have to agree with Sky here. On current form Goofy & Sturridge are the best partnership in the league imo. They're both having a tremendous season. Albeit Suarez looks like he's running out of steam for me, (which given his goal ratio to this point is understandable). RvP & Rooney haven't played enough as a pair this season to give a meaningful comparison. Only Negredo & Aguero edge them overall in the division over the full season to date.
4th or 5th. City>Chelsea>Arsenal, then you or Spurs. Good arguments could be made each way, I'd say. You do need to add to your team and have done for a while. Fergie was a miracle worker and, although you're better than your current position indicates, challenging without him is going to involve getting more transfers of Mata quality into positions of weakness (CBs & the midfield).
Arsenal do not have a better squad than us. This is the same set of bottlers they had last year plus Ozil. Ozil is great and all but his addition doesnt suddenly make all there other players better. Theyre closer than they were but thats purely down to the stuff going on at United and the loss of confidence within the club. I think some of you are confused. This isnt about form. Form has united in the bottom 3 I imagine. This is about squad quality. Some are over performing ( liverpool and Arsenal) some are underperforming (united and spurs) And some are the same (Everton).
hristiansmiwha6046399]Of course it is f**king lacking if we do not have enough quality CMs or DMs. As someone quite rightly said, no point having a bentley or RR with a lovely interior if the engine is shot and the car won't move. You could argue it is 4th best. I think it is 5th best not because the players individually are **** but because as a squad to do the job demanded, they are unbalanced and not up to scratch. Ask yourself this: If you were Pellegrini or Maureen, who in the United first team would you put in your first team ahead of others in your squad if your first teamers got injured or suspended? If you are really serious about matching or overtaking the chavs or City, you have got your answer ![/QUOTE] Erm goal keeper, right back, one cb if hes fit, Chelsea woyld take every striker we have, city would have both rvp and Rooney involved. So more than you think. Its quite sad that a small number of united fans genuonely believe the squad is actually ****. Its pretty obvious what the main issue is but weve been over that.
People are entitled to their opinions, UIR, and a fair number of Man Utd fans think your squad is 4/5th best in the league. Not sh*t! 4/5 best. Besides, although I know you won't concur, your whole under-performing/over-performing argument could equally be applied to your team retrospectively, due to what you refer to as 'the main issue'.
RVP hasn't been fit for most of this season, so trying to put Sturridge ahead of him on current form when he hasn't been close to fit is just bollocks and Gerrard ahead of Rooney as CAM?!? Credit for a good thread derail effort Sky! Our biggest problem right now is that our biggest strength has arguably become our biggest weakness. Last season City without Yaya, Aguero or Kompany would be guaranteed to drop a few points, ditto Chelsea without Mata, Lampard or Hazard. Whereas the only player we would really miss was RVP. Our squad was consistently good but not great, but SAF knew the players inside out, so he'd get the right balance of good to win games consistently. The problem this season, asides RVP's injury problems, is that Moyes doesn't know the squad well enough to get the right balance. It's questionable whether any manager would, given how much work SAF has done in developing that squad and players to his own personal taste over time. To use Ruff's analogy - SAF never put oil in the engine cos he could always get it purring well enough without needing any oil. And he was a stubborn old ****er who never liked any of the oil available in the shops. But now the car has a new owner it's gonna need a good service and overhaul. I reckon individually, over the whole squad, we are about on a par with Chelsea and Arsenal, maybe a wee bit behind Chelsea now they have Matic. Chelsea and Arsenal are both missing a striker, we're missing a midfielder or two, but more importantly we're missing the man who made our squad far more than the sum of its parts.
Sorry, just noticed this one. So what you're saying Sky, is Liverpool are three players away from a title winning team? Either that's the best troll ever, or I sense a d-bomb is about to be dropped
Pretty much it. Disagree about arsenal though. Im not making this about moyes, just about the squad. No premier league club has a great squad tbh, United have a good one, Better than the vast majority. Also consider this, a car is only as good as its driver. Put a novice in a high performance car and its likely to end up f**ked.... Doesnt matter what oil, fuel or engine upgrades you use...
I agree with you on that one the old genius picked his players in such a way that they came together to his tune. Without him and with any other ****er they just wouldn't be the same. To expect Moyes to deliver with his squad players only was just unrealistic. Look Moyes may or may not deliver. It is just stupid to get rid of him like some are currently screaming for without giving him a chance to fashion his own team.
I thought that Fellaini was the missing piece of your jigsaw,him and Carrick would be one of the best pairings in the PL, yet he has failed to show up and you are forced to play players like Cleverley. Man U success in the last 15 years was based on solid midfielders and fantastic widemen, yet now you get bossed by most teams in midfield but manage to win points because Rooney and RVP are so lethal and only need 1 or 2 attempts for a goal. If Fellaini regains his form and your front 2 stay fit you have a top starting 11, but not with the same depth as City or Chelsea
Strange how you lot dismiss all talk of any player from any team being better than yours. Of course, Rooney and RVP are miles better than SAS, and your midfield is miles better than ours, and your defence is miles better than ours, and your keeper - miles better than ours. However you'd think that your UEFA Team of the Year would be placed higher than 7th, 7 points behind ours, if that were the case.
