Thought you would pick up on this post, very predictable. I see parallels with the Pietersen thread. With team morale and ethos being the key issue. Do you allow 1 (or 2) star performers to be treated differently, be allowed special privileges, or should star performers, be treated like all other players in the interest of discipline, and team ethos. Just imagine, a young up and coming player, see "the star performer" training as hard or harder than all other players - huge plus for the club, an example to follow, and huge inspiration. On the other hand, other players see "the star performer" shirking off training, in to training late, what example does that set. I know what kind of "star performer" I would like at my club.
24 year old signs for AC Milan and its ‘last chance saloon’ Of all the anti-Taarabt statements this is the most daft. If a premier league club came in for Clint Hill and he believed in himself enough to play regularly then he would obviously go. Really doesn’t make sense when people have a go at him when he says he wanted to play at a higher level and took that chance when it was offered to him. Only player of any worth I can think of who played beneath himself for love of the club was Matt Le Tissier. Having to go that far back shows how worthless your point is. So in a league where SWP has a winners medal, where Lee Cattermole has regularly played for 5 years and where a team with a centre back pairing of Gabbidon and Delaney is good enough to keep them out of the relegation zone you honestly believe it to be a fact that Adel “couldn’t cut it in the premier league”?!?!!?! Ha How many other premier league failures have gone on to sign for a club like AC Milan? Adel signing for AC proves unequivocally what all the sensible, logical and reasoned fans knew all along. He’s a class act. A footballer. He has a level of technical ability that a tiny percentage of people in world football can match. The AC Milan scouts recognise that and I reckon they know a bit more than some of the Adel haters on this thread.
What a load of utter rubbish. So every relegated club, has lost all their quality higher division players ? Immediately on relegation.
Taarabts haters???? Why suddenly every realistic peoples on this QPR site have been slated Taarabts haters?
Never happened ever before. Which I why on previous posts, I have stated exactly that. "Fulham Flop" signs for AC Milan - I read that with disbelief, and have posted regularly I wish him the best, but when he calls himself "The Balotelli of Morocco", and " I want to be Balotelli's friend", I similarly shudder in disbelief.
I didn't want to get dragged into this again but I'm sorry, it proves no such thing. How can a player that has yet to prove himself in the top flight of any Country, let alone Italy where he has yet to play a single game, have "unequivocally" proved anything? He was a flop at Rangers, a flop at Fulham and a flop at Spurs. We'll wait and see how he does at Milan but I'm 99% sure he'll flop there as well. And one thing he most certainly is not, Damage, is a footballer. He's up there among the best for raw talent but a footballer he ain't. I'll tell you who's a footballer. Andy Townsend. Now there's a lad that's got it upstairs and in his feet an' all. Taarabt is a waster and he'll come back from Milan with his tail between his legs. Just watch this space.
Most definetely not a "flop" at QPR, not in the Championship or the PL. He has gotta be one of the best ever players to wear our colours. To date he's not at Stan, Rodney, Gerry, or Les's level, but for me he is in our all time top 10 or so attacking players
If a club from a higher league bids for them and the selling club deem it a sufficient amount… YES!!! That’s how it works. If its ‘utter rubbish’ be interesting to see your list of recent examples of players turning down moves to clubs in the league above or significantly bigger clubs (thinking Le Tisser eg not Adel to Fulhm here) and where they had a realistic chance of playing. We’re still waiting for the penny to drop – you’re the one that’s missing something. Proves it because he’s moved to Milan. It’s not like it’s just Crystal Palace or the Fulham move. He’s moved to AC Milan… Again still waiting for the penny to drop As for bringing in Townsend that is a red herring and irrelevant to this thread so no comment there.
Oh Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie I was responding to Damage's claim that his move "unequivocally proves he's a class act". I said he's yet to prove himself in the top flight of any Country yet you bring up the second tier again!! Are you telling me that every player that has had one good season in Serie B, the Segunda División, the Bundesliga 2 and the English Championship has proved himself as a class act?!!! He was a flop for us in our two PL seasons. He was dropped to the bench for prolonged periods by both COLIN and Redknapp and even Hughes dropped him. And just because you say he was one of the best ever players to play for QPR (although even that claim I think is risible), a small 2nd-tier sized Club in England equivalent to I don't know, Empolie, Nurberg, Espanyol etc, that doesn't make him a class player on the big stage. Far from it unfortunately! Lets just let him at least play one solitary game in Italy before we crown him King of Europe shall we?
Has he kicked one single ball for them yet? Has he had one tinsy winsy little minute on the pitch? Ain't you jumping the gun a tad here?
How on earth could I gather that information, it is not available, what a chairman and manger felt was a reasonable offer for one of their quality players, what the counter offer was what the terms were, what finances were available to replace, what players where interested in coming to that club, as a replacement. Infinite number of permutations, as to why, could a star player stay at a relegated club, or accepted an offer and moved on.
My main point still remains that some QPR fans can grab and use a fable that he was a failure in the premiership ... sorry can't accept that really as on the pitch I saw regular phrases of play from him that lit up the league. We as a club failed of course but can't agree Taarabt let our club down. His Fulham career I agree was very poor as that club has had a lot of change itself. I could shown examples of the very reason why one of the biggest clubs in the world have him now. I respect all views but grabbing words like failure while he was at QPR is IMO ... very narrow minded. To anyone who uses negative easy vocabulary like failure and claims that as a fact ... and calls then calls people delusional to look at themselves ... I ask show me the proof where he failed our team on the pitch ... To that I know i can crucify that view ... Did you watch him against Chelsea away for a start? MOM and I am certain I can supply many more to disprove any view of failure Taarabt has some poor aspects of his game for sure but is not a failure IMO and at 24 has shown the worlds that he has a gift as a footballer
Let me think, Here's a thread, name me a player recuited by Man U; Man City; Chelsea; Bayern Munich; Barcelona; Real Madrid; Juventus; Inter Milan; AC Milan, that hasnt lived up to potential and whose career petered out to very little. You seem to think just because Adel was recruited by AC Milan that he is destined for the stars, and greatness. He hasn't even been selected, or played once for them yet, but some seem to think, he has already made it to the big time.
The game at the scum was the one I remembered immediately when someone wrote he hadn't done anything under Arry. Adel playing a withdrawn target man was brilliant, and a masterpiece by Harry too in fact - never understood why Arry didn't do it again but played BZ! Adel was sheer class in many PL games - his goals at West Brom, and against Foollham were brilliant, he hit the metalwork many more times than any other player in the first part of the first PL season, if he'd been luckier we may have lost him earlier, but he was brilliant in many other PL games he played, though of course not all.
Aaaah this is like pulling teeth – I’m not asking you to do any of that. You said do clubs “immediately” lose their top players…. I explained that if a bid was sufficient then they go- so its not a case of “immediately” leaving. Now that’s that point done. What we were looking at was where a club is willing to let a player go as we were with Adel (so forget all you wrote in your previous post) what player wouldn’t leave for a bigger club or a club in the league above, i.e specifically turn down a better move to stay where they were out of loyalty? I said the only case I could think of was Matt Le Tissier. Asking you to provide an example of somebody who despite all logic stayed with their club out of loyalty and passion for that one club? To emphasise my point I picked Clint Hill, a man who is rightly known for being a loyal and honest professional as an example that if a premier league club came in for him and we were willing to sell (and importantly he had a realistic opportunity of playing) then he would have done exactly the same as Adel did and left us. Which to me makes your criticism of Adel for leaving us to play in the premiership irrelevant because every single one of our players in his position would have done the same
Now some of here seems to think that adels loan transfer to AC Milan automatically means that he is so much better player than majority her think he is. Well, how is the thing with our very own Traore? couple of seasons ago he played in Juventus where he was loaned from Arsenal. So he has played in TWO great teams in europe. Does that make him special player before our eyes? After all he did play 10 matches with them and Juventus by the way is maybe even bigger club than AC Milan. All im saying that its not so great achievement to get transerred to one of the italian giants anymore.
I never criticised him for leaving, people were saying it was a Harry plot to push him out. I responded with a quote from him " I dont want to play in the Championship"
He has squad number 23 and selected already for the Champions league. Should make his debut against Napoli is the official view from the club He may break his leg and never play again but he is there and already has impressed in training.
Traore yes ... always believed in him but of course he hasn't the playmaker skills that Taarabt has. Juventus Milan both giants in world football, a few spaces higher than Arsenal i think We were London's top team for many years but now we aren't Would have loved to have this conversation say 6 years ago at LR ...take stock of where we are ... Taarabt to AC Milan big news for me as a QPR fan
