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Celtic Losing Scotland's Neutral Vote

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Rocket, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. Rocket

    Rocket Well-Known Member

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    So 1 death threat's all right? I suppose you think it's ok to split their heads open, smash their windows and have them followed by Private Detectives as well.

    When John Reid backs a call for Referees to name the club they supported as a boy he is in my opinion questioning their integrity.Referees make mistakes, honest mistakes, they're not out to cheat Celtic or anyone else, why can't CFC and their supporters accept that?

    He wants McDonald sacked claiming that his position is untenable due to dishonesty.... this from a man that sent British troops into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction - we're still looking.

    Then we have Billy Collum as the Celtic fans now call him. They don't like when it's pointed out that he's a Roman Catholic...Why? Because it doesn't fit in with their hidden agenda theory that all Refs are Masons and Orangemen and out to get them.

    And where were all these allegations of cheating when Celtic under Strachan made it 3 in a row? I swear I never heard a peep. Funny how it's only when the Champs are running the show we hear all this pathetic nonsense - and make no mistake, that's exactly what it is.
     
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  2. BH1972RFC

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    <applause> Rocket

    Summed up rather succinctly <ok>
     
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  3. menniet4

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    Would that title not have got him onto the war cabinet?
     
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  4. wombatdropping

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    All that pish was mince ??
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    1: Have Celtic condoned these threats? Have Celtic fans supported them? Only morons would support threats and we have plenty of them in Scotland, such is life.

    2: So when they brought that rule in in England -whereby Refs have to state their allegiances- is that questioning their integrity? Because no one down there seems to think that way.

    3: Pope covered that, more DR Death myths and imaginings.

    4: The first mention I heard of Collums's religion was on FF where they had pictures of him with a "Catholic Cross", his religion is of no concern whatsoever to me and the vast majority of Celtic fans, we certainly don't all think he's a Celtic fan just because of his religion. Nevr heard anyone calling him Billy either.

    5: What "allegations of cheating"? I asked you to list them and (along with a list of examples of Celtic questioning people's integrity) all you have done is list things that "you" perceive as allegations of cheating by Celtic. Anyone can play that game so i'll say it again, Did Levein not make allegations about Mike McCurry or Walter about Mr Murphy? Both Managers (and plenty of others too) have accused Refs of favouring the other team so why have the refs chosen now to react?

    It's all been done before yet they strike now? Maybe they've just proved what some people think, they do hate Celtic?
     
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  6. BH1972RFC

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    Reid, Lennon and Hooper need to be taken to task over their comments.

    Chances of it happening........................not a ****ing hope <ok>

    SFA? Sellic Football Association
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Any particular comments?

    One thing's for sure, none of the 3 will be sacked. Sorry...resign.
     
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  8. BH1972RFC

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    Reid for calling into the question the integrity of the SFA. Reid's comments about there being a historical bias against Celtic. Reid's comments about "it may have gone on in the past, but it sure as hell won't now"

    That enough on the Reidster?

    The Lurgan Bigot - Suggesting it was because of he is and who he manages that he was sent to the stand? What did he mean by that? What about his comments regarding "they're probably in their dressing room get their stories straight"?

    Hooper - Comments regarding refs wanting to give decisions against Celtic because they were a big club? What was he inferring there? Not that the refs are cheats, surely?

    Everyone of those comments are worthy of being pulled up infront of the SFA beaks as they are bringing the game into disrepute (minimum), I know anyone from any other club who came out with those would be dry bummed, so why aren't these 3 clown?

    There you go Dev, I look forward to your comments <ok>
     
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  9. Johnbhoy#7

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    BH you should know that when your angry folk make rash statements <laugh>
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    1: Reid never never called into question anyone's integrity, he said the was a historical bias, there was, so he's telling the truth. He also said he does not believe it happens now . He actually said ""We're not asking for special treatment but neither will we be treated as less than anyone else. Those days are gone."

    He also said "bold, radical action" must be taken to combat "stories of lies, conspiracies and cover-ups" within Scottish football. Note that he does not say "bold, radical action" must be taken to combat lies, conspiracies and cover-ups" He wants the "Stories of lies, conspiracies and cover-ups" to stop. In other words they are stories, he does not believe them.

    2: I never heard him say that but I would assume it's because he was a narky bastard as a player and Refs have long memories, it would be understandable if some Refs looked for a chance to send him off, I think it's perfectly reasonable, Refs are human. I can recall plenty of people in football alleging that Refs picked on them, it does not mean you are accusing people of cheating.

    3: Hooper is 22 and not the sharpest tool, however he actually said that Refs like giving decisions against Celtic because they are a huge club, he continued to state that ALL big clubs suffer from that, he did also allude to a historical bias but as I have said, it did happen in the past and it's now part of Celtic folklore, it's only natural that playeers discuss these things, Paul Elliot and John Hartson believed they suffered a bias, Billy McNeill, Jock Stein and many more besides, are/were they all paranoid nutters and should they be charged (or dug up in Jock's case) by the SFA along with every manager and player who has ever criticised a Referee?

    It would be a long list.
     
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  11. wombatdropping

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    1: Reid never never called into question anyone's integrity, he said the was a historical bias, there was, so he's telling the truth. He also said he does not believe it happens now . He actually said ""We're not asking for special treatment but neither will we be treated as less than anyone else. Those days are gone."



    What historical bias Dev; please explain
     
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    BH - In the aftermath of the first Dundee Utd game, our beloved Scotland assistant manager said 'Dougie McDonald conspires to try to give a penalty against us.' In the aftermath of the second Utd game Gary Kenneth alleged that the referee was biased towards Celtic. "Asked if he thought he would have been sent off if he had clashed with Hooper in a similar situation, Kenneth replied: "Definitely - any other club. Goodie was in on goal and it was a sending-off but the ref saw it differently."

    Neither are up on any charges despite explicitly complaining of 'conspiracies' and bias within the same period that Celtic and celtic alone have led their hate campaign against refs.
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

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    In the past.
     
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  14. Rocket

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    BH you forgot Sutton claiming Dunfermline lay down to Rangers on the last day of the season. <doh>

    It's the Celtic way you see, always the fault of others, never theirs.

    They'll tell anyone willing to listen that it's a Masonic conspiracy, all Referees are in the Orange Order, the SFA are corrupt, the Media are against them, you could go on and on and on. It's pathetic.

    As for disclosure in England? They don't operate in a league where the only 2 teams capabale of winning it are divided by hatred and sectarianism. Our Referees have a hard enough job on their hands without this and what would it actually gain?

    The smaller teams will tell you they get nothing from the Refs at Ibrox or Parkhead but I don't see them running to the SFA looking for clarification - why do Celtic?

    And you still haven't answered why it was all quiet on the western front when Strachan was winning 3 in a row but it's alright, we already know the answer to that one.

    A pattern begins to emerge.............

    When Celtic are winning all in the garden's rosy posy, when they're losing all hell breaks loose and we witness all the nonsense we're seeing now.

    Everyone knew when Lennon was appointed manager this was coming - he's a poisonous little reptile.

    In the words of Dr Death he's ... "Not fit for purpose."
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Shhh you, your'e just confusing them with hard facts now.
     
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  16. rogueleader

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    Richard Nixon ordered the assasination of JFK and man has never actually landed on the moon ; I thought you all should know that.
     
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  17. BH1972RFC

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    <laugh>

    Dev, your responses are laughable. Are you sure you aren't The Reidster? <laugh>

    "In the past"? Like what? Weeks? Months? Years? If it's in the past, then why bring it up as recently as a couple of weeks ago? <doh>

    Lennon - Guilty as charged then, yes?

    Hooper - Guilty as charged then, yes?
     
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  18. monacoger

    monacoger POTY 2021

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    I just read, "historical bias" and I stopped reading, so I took a few minutes to think about my response, which is...Grow up you dirty fenian bastard. Idiot.
     
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  19. wombatdropping

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    There was no historical bias against Celtic. They have had men at the top of the tree in Scottish football for a very long time. If on the other hand you are suggesting bias against catholics then you would have to go a long way back to evidence that. Since the early 1960's the Labour party have had a stranglehold on the political scene in the west of Scotland. This has allowed them to become of the of the most Catholic of organisations around. Glasgow City council doesnt deserve its reputation for nothing.

    Oh yes we also had the sorry scenario of Monklands district council,the Frank Lafferty fiasco and the quite deranged antics of dumbartonshire council advertising their top posts only in the Catholic church newspaper.

    Historical bias - oh yes it was there ok.

    But none of this should have bothered Celtic one little bit as they are a football club detached from politics. Isnt that right ?

    My opinion for what its worth is that Reid and his cronies are ****ting themselves at the prospect of losing another league title. Where do they go from here. They have spent money on players and managers and it just isnt working.Time for some spin so they blame every ****er bar themselves.

    I have asked several of of my friends in England with no association with Scottish football what their thought on this matter are. They all think Celtic are adopting underhand tactics to deflect blame away from their own shortcomings.
     
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  20. BH1972RFC

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    Monaco, watch out for them splinters <ok> <laugh>
     
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