I hope they appeal his sending off .. and roll the video back 20 seconds and see why he was outraged ... as well as showing the elbows, shoves and general physical assault he took all game ... disgusting
Pulis and his lads got everything spot on and deserved the win. Us on the other hand are loosing belief by the game. Hate to sound like a poodle but if we don't get our heads sorted in the next few games then we are in the ****
The sending off was correct, retaliation is a red card, however the whole thing should never have been allowed to elevate to that level in the first place. The Long penalty was just a tangle of legs on the replay, I think in real time most would have given the penalty, I think outside the box would have been a FK!
This time I don't agree. Long's claim may well be given 90% of the time however he cleverly let Gabbidon run into him, there was no tackle by the defender. Jelavic's would have been soft The keeper's red changed nothing - it was at the end. We deserve nothing, we didn't take our few chances and how can you say Palace didn't create a chance? They clearly did and they scored from it. They also had a Jedinak free kick saved by McGregor. We must improve - whinging about the ref's decisions is covering up for inadequacies.
McGregor let himself and the team down, we won't appeal because it was a clear red card offense. Palace played him perfectly last night, they wound him up, knocked him about and frustrated him, you could argue the ref should have done more to protect him but that doesn't excuse him for lashing out, he's an experienced professional and should have known better.
That's not relevant. The only question that matters is "was he fouled?" and if the answer is "yes", then it's a penalty. End of.
Neither were penalties. McGregor was a red for kicking out, however soft, that's the rules these days, Jedinak should also have seen red early on for doing the exact same thing to Livermore.
Long being brought down by Gabbidon was a pen. The defender made no contact with the ball and took Long out after he got to the ball first. Yes Long was 'clever' but that shouldn't disguise the fact ii was a pen Jelavic was not a pen McGregor retaliated so straight red was right Ref was okay but weak in his handling of the game overall.
Palace fan in peace! Just want to give my opinion on the game. There is a lot of sour grapes on here. Although the ref wasn't the best, he got the 2 big calls spot on. The long incident was never a penalty in a month of sundays. He spent the whole of the first half throwing himself to the floor in an attempt to win fouls, and luckily the ref saw right through him. The Mcgregor sending off was right on the balance of things. He had a go at Jerome before that, and the ref only booked Jerome. That was a situation where you have to either book both players, or neither. Doing it again to O'Keefe would have been a second yellow, and if he did kick out (which I didn't see because I can't see the corners of the pitch from where I stand), then yes it is a red card. The ref seemed to have something against Chamakh, as he didn't give him anything all game. There was an occasion where one of your lot came steaming into the back of him, but the free kick went your way. You were poor up front, we were all over the place for long periods of the second half, but you couldn't take advantage of that. There are also a lot of people having a go at Pulis, but I think you have to give him a lot of credit, as his tactical changes were spot on. When were were on the back foot he changed it to 5 at the back to nullify the threat, and then switched back to 4 in midfield when the game opened back up. It seems to me that a lot of you are just trying to make excuses. That was the sort of game you need to win in this division. Its always nice to get one over on Judas Bruce too. Enjoy the rest of the season
The stats disagree. Having seen it back a few times, the McGregor one seems very soft. He doesn't even really kick it's more of a frustrated step. Like a toddler's tantrum he just kind of started flailing about. He also didn't touch O'Keefe. He essentially moved his leg just next to him. How anyone can argue with that Long penalty is beyond me. The penalties you see given for blatant cheating week in week out and people are saying Long was playing for it? He couldn't possibly stay on his feet, his leg got trapped between Gabbidon's legs who was behind him. I can't even agree with that being referred to as 'clever play'. He was just fouled from behind. Long was actually going for the ball too, which a lot of strikers don't do in that situation and instead just try to be fouled and then win a penalty. The Jelavic one was debatable but that Long one was a stone-waller all night long. Let's not forget Palace scraped into the playoffs last season after getting about 15 penalties, including 2 in one game against us which were outrageous. If you had the standard amount of penalties you'd have been 12 goals worse off and probably finished mid-table. We've had about half that many in the last 5 years in total. It's easy for you to say sour grapes when you get everything from refs in your home games. We're a decent side, but we aren't good enough to win uphill battles like that every time we play at Selhurst Park.
Last season, a palace player did the exact same thing to Meyler and we were infuriated by it, needless to say the ref gave it but it was not a penalty and we were unanimous in agreement. Longs was not a penalty, Suarez would probably have been given it, but it wasn't a penalty. Long wasn't dribbling the ball, he was chasing it, and he sidestepped (away from the ball) in front of Mariappa on purpose to get tripped up. If Longs was a penalty, so was Hazards at our place where he actually jumped sideways into our defender at the edge of the box.
Just read your post PLT, where you say Longs was definitely a penalty and Palaces 2 last season were outrageous. As said in the post above, palaces first last season was exactly the same shout as Longs last night. So which is it? Outrageous or stonewall? Or does that depend only on whether its for or against us? Their second in that game was ridiculous.
I really don't know what you mean by Long stepping away from the ball into the defender (think it was actually Gabbidon?). Have you seen a replay? He just runs in one single direction towards the ball and his leg gets caught from behind him while he's running. He isn't looking at the defender or anything and he doesn't change direction, initiate contact or anything. He just outpaces him and ends up in front of him.
Seen it back for the first time today and O'Keefe flew straight at him scraping his studs down McGregors leg(while looking right at him) McGregor gave him a nudge as if to say "What the **** are you doing?" It wasn't violent, it wasn't a swing, the ref was like it all game he couldn't wait to send McGregor off, he gave us **** all.
I would ask if you've seen a replay... Long definitely side stepped in front of the defender to initiate contact. At first in real time I actually thought it was one of those "being clever" dives. From the next 2 replays it looked stonewall, but the third, from the same angle the ref would have seen it from, it confirmed it was a "being clever" dive. Well not so much a dive but definitely played for and not a penalty. It's annoying because you can bet if that was one of theirs who went down or we were one of the top sides it would have been given in a flash. But it was the correct call.
