penny pinching.
the excuse if we get no one in by end of window will be, well we tried!!
you had best be pulling a ****ing rabbit out the hat ayre or whoever is ****ing about at our club!
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penny pinching.
the excuse if we get no one in by end of window will be, well we tried!!
you had best be pulling a ****ing rabbit out the hat ayre or whoever is ****ing about at our club!
It's times like this where we need a charasmatic DoF. Yes I know the downsides, and how Baldini apparently made signings without AVB really agreeing, but can't we rename it to "chief negotiator" - where Rogers still calls the shot? I just don't think Ayre should be the one to try and get the deals done, plus he's got plenty to get on with in other commercial areas (like the bloody stadium!)
Sir_Red:5988030 said:
BR still calls the shots? I've got the distinct impression over BR's Windows that he's had very little say in the process. It appears he gets told no, more than yes when he requests a player and more,than once looked/sounded very 'disappointed' with how things panned out.
Agree, you move down the list onto the next option... but taking 2 1/2 months to close a deal is shambolic.. taking that long to seal the deal for someone like Messi I can understand, Image rights, paying his club and parents, helping him dodge tax, etc, but to sign some like Salah shouldn't take that long!
With regards to 4-4-2...
Everton are a better team than Villa and Villa's midfield over-run us, we'll be chasing shadows all night!
yea I've no doubt that BR doesn't get what he wants, but at least he doesn't get signings forced upon him that he doesn't feel fit the club or his philosophy (like at other clubs and especially Real Madrid, although not an issue when you're minted...)
got off eurobot so take with a pinch of salt, but opinions? believable?
i c&p, person was shouting, he seems an upset Chelsea fan
DA COSTA STILL BEEING CHASED BY LIVERPOOL DESPITE AGREEING WITH CHELSEA. LIVERPOOL UNDERSTOOD TO PUT A FORMAL BID LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
i c&p, person was shouting, he seems an upset Chelsea fan
DA COSTA STILL BEEING CHASED BY LIVERPOOL DESPITE AGREEING WITH CHELSEA. LIVERPOOL UNDERSTOOD TO PUT A FORMAL BID LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
got off eurobot so take with a pinch of salt, but opinions? believable?
i c&p, person was shouting, he seems an upset Chelsea fan
DA COSTA STILL BEEING CHASED BY LIVERPOOL DESPITE AGREEING WITH CHELSEA. LIVERPOOL UNDERSTOOD TO PUT A FORMAL BID LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
I believe we're monitoring the situation...
How the feck do negotiations take nearly 3 months? I mean fair enough (even if I'm still dubious about its inflexibility at times) we have our pricing policy. But we must have sounded like Mrs Doyle:
Us: 10 million
Them: no, 14
Us: Ah, go on.
Them: no
Us: ye will.
No
Ah ye will.
No!
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Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
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Them: SOLD!.........to Chelsea.
Us: 10 million
Them: no, 14
Us: Ah, go on.
Them: no
Us: ye will.
No
Ah ye will.
No!
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
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Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
Ye Will , Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will, Ye Will,
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Them: SOLD!.........to Chelsea.
balls.... eurobot just report stuff verbatim. whereever that came form costa rejected us last summer and frankly i beleive the chelsea link. the player is the exact archetype that mourinho wants
costa also doesn't quite fit out model unless we string 3 strikers across the front... in which case the midfield even gets more questionable
its more like being the ugly child down the loack disco...
you ask all the grils one by one and they all say no so you end up looking at a right minger in desperation (moses)
rodgers is saying stuff that techically is correct BUT in actual fact tells only the story rodgers wants... all he siad is he was leaving the thing to others.. ie negotiations.
in short rodgers is managing the team so has to do that.. but the extension of what he said is he's got no say which is patently untrue
Surely what he was saying was a veiled attack on the "money men" as he called them. Not exactly giving both barrels ala Rafa but his statement was clear that we didn't get the player he wanted because the club wouldn't pay the money. He's right to be pissed off if that's the case but then I have to ask why the hell he made a winger one of his primary targets for this window?
Rodgers is as much part of this mess as anyone. Identify your targets; go get them. We seem to try to leverage interest in our third priority to bring the cost of our first priority down. As a result, we end up with our third priority. It stinks of amateurish negotiation skills or us really not knowing what we want.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25927695
De Jong to Newcastle on an initial loan deal. Another miss?
De Jong to Newcastle on an initial loan deal. Another miss?
moreinjuredthanowen:5988227 said:
What? He wanted players and didn't get them because of price? It's a straightforward story, not manufactured at all. Whether he's entirely happy about it isn't clear.
I meant (and it appears to be happening) that he may select a list of targets (I assume with aid of the other "footballing experts/scouts" on the committee) but he then has little say in if they are bought. That is controlled entirely by whether the selling club meet our valuation. Now I'm not sure how much BR is involved in giving a player a monetary valuation. I doubt little.
So as Red said, he may identify players but that's his input over on the committee. He can't insist we overspend to get a player or we would have already and if he can insist and hasn't then he's looking at the wrong quality of players "to improve our first 11" in the first place! Top 4, first 11 players do not come in for 10 million without a lot of good fortune.
Our two current strategies of strict budget and top 4 qualifications are not very compatible when competing against more than 3 teams that can and will meet the prices for the players required.
There is a message gap here. The "we won't overspend" is being said louder than "we want to qualify for CL, Win trophies."
Fair enough, but sooner or later the second message will become a mute point.
