Then why has he not been stuck in the no 9 position, United are lacking goals. Rooney's form this season has mainly been as tormentor and creator of space for others as well as good distribution. In that department he has been great this year. If the goals are as good as got as you say, which tbh is just a guess, then why is he not playing there and scoring for fun?
Haven't seen their board, but to be fair to Sisu I don't think he's saying Sturridge is better than Rooney, just arguing how big the gap between them is!
Again poor argument, I'll take your lack of a logical response as 1 0 up going into the second half, got anything else?
Think you answered your own question mate. If he plays number 9 it weakens their already poor midfield.
Hes scored 2 less playing essentially as a attacking midfielder. The top scorer in his position, 2 behind Sturridge who unlike Rooney doesnt have 2 players fighting for his space ( now 3 ). Hes also provided 9 assists, again, the most in the league. All this while having the best striker at the club and last seasons top scorer on the side lines. Hes essentially setting up goals for Welbeck FFS.
That's the thing. Rooney is a more complete footballer, definitely. Lets face it though, UIR talks of "Striker" and so far this season Sturridge has got more goals more often, how that equates to being worse beggars belief. Rooney has been quality, but anyone who says there have not been a couple of dodgy performances this season from him are deluded. He was piss poor at WHL and got a peno and a pass from Walker in the 6 yard box for his brace. Sturridge has been scoring regularly and some of his goals have been class. He's a greedy **** though but if we are talking about the primary duties of a striker Sturridge is doing better, stats do not lie.
Put forward your argument for why Sturridge is better than Rooney then chap. As a striker if it makes it easier for you. May as well make this crappy Monday somewhat entertaining. Once you'v done that I'd like to hear your views on why Glen Johnson is the best RB in the world
Not once were we comparing strikers. I compared the players, Rooney wins. As for strikers..... well guess what, Rooney wins, by an absolute mile. Drogs got it right, hes 5x the player. In every aspect.
Rooney 0.46 goals per game Sturridge 0.82 Rooney assists 14 Sturridge 3 This backs up my point, Rooney is playing a totally different game. The majority of good things from United pass through Rooney when he plays. I wouldn't put Sturridge in Rooney's position and vise versa as I think Rooney would be and has shown to be wasted in performing Sturridge's role. UIR god bless him thinks I am saying Rooney is just inferior to Sturridge, which I am not. Sturridge has a long way to go before he can be put in the same class as rooney.
yes.... Wayne Rooney has never been a prolific striker. he is in no way 4th on Uniteds all time scoring list.
You said that not me. Rooney has never had the best touch in the world lets face it. His short passing game was always lacking, he would give the ball away often. Now he plays with play in front of him, has shown good vision and brings more to the team than he would in that no9 role. All credit to him. Other's have more goals because of what Rooney brings to the opposition's half of the pitch. Had he been excelling in that striker role to the degree you think he has then why does he play second fiddle so often to other strikers? Because they are better strikers most likely and Rooney has shown he can offer a lot in terms of creativity. I think Rooney now is nothing like the Rooney of 4 years ago anyway, a very different player.
I rank Sturridge with Welbeck. Similar players of similar ability. Both are bang average and will never be anything more than that. Rooney is in the World Class bracket, has been for years. He's adapted his game as hs got older from th explosive Rooney coming in from the left supporting the likes of RvN and Ronaldo to become the player he is now. All the time our play has gone through him, regardless of where hes played in the side because if you have a player like Wayne, its a good idea to give him the ball. I agree his passing and touch can let him down at times, hes not actually an AM so it makes sense. His touch is that of a striker, one lokking o shift the ball quickly so he creates space for a shot. His long passing is scholes like, his short suffers in part from the lack of movement of some of his team mates. Put him with RvP and his short passing improves massively.
I think Sturridge is a better finisher than Welbeck, which hopefully he will improve. Where they are very, very similar is in that they both look complete bell ends with their cringe worthy goal celebrations. Both should be shot, twats. Rooney's record speaks for itself, Sturridge shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Other than 'Sturridge partners Wayne Rooney for England'
You just seem to be arguing with yourself. Everyone here is agreeing that Rooney is better. You're creating your own argument and winding yourself up into a frenzy. I don't actually think the gap is all that big though. Sturridge is better than you're claiming. And Rooney is not as good as you're claiming. But Rooney is still better than Sturridge.
Haven't read the through so will just dive straight in to this. UIR, you are entitled to your opinion, I honestly don't think you've watched Sturridge enough, he's more than just a goal scorer, in fact, I never realized what a good player he was until we signed him. Unfortunately, made of glass. Better than Rooney? Er no, can he? Er probably not, hardly a bad thing Rooney has 200+ goals, not many players emulate that sort of success. The comparisons with Welbeck are a bit silly, apart from being English and black how are they similar? Sturridge is a clever striker who relies on his acceleration and touch. Welbeck is a work horse who chips in with goals. And yes, I do admit Welbeck is getting increasingly better. But again, to be fair to Sturridge.. He's been here for a year now, most of the time not fully fit and his record has been immense. 25 in 33 games and 21 in 28 in the PL + a fair few assists to his name. As for the whole "no pressure" argument, that's subjective isn't it? Surely we can only base it on what we've seen. I doubt you'll find many reds who give a **** about that as long as he carries on scoring important goals for us. He's a joy to watch, and I'll stick my neck out here and say if he was Spanish or Brazilian he'd be getting double the plaudits right now. I hope he carries on this "average" form, for sure.
FFS Sturridge celebration is like a lap dancer's act and I am doing an injustice to lap dancers.. He is a confidence player and a flat track bully like rat face. Against lowly teams he will play well but when the pressure is on, you might as well as play someone from one of peter stringfellow joints.
Clearly you are as thick as a small number of scousers. Gap isnt that big? Its huge. The difference between world class and just another footballer is massive.
A little neutral balance ... When I first saw Daniel Sturridge playing for Man City I really hoped we (Leicester City) might be able to get him on loan (not least because Dean Sturridge his cousin was an ex LCFC player) ... never felt the same excitement about Danny Wellbeck I'm afraid ... good solid English prem pro yes but future Man United first choice centre-forward? ... not for me ... Sturridge definitely has the edge of the two IMHO... Wayne Rooney, in footballing terms, is on a different planet to both ... could you see Real Madrid ever being interested in Wellbeck or Sturridge? ... I can't
Again, this sort of insulting comment just shows how wound up you are making yourself. Even if the gap was huge (whether it is or not who knows, as it's just subjective anyway), why does it bother you if random posters on an internet forum who you'll never meet think it isn't that huge? Not only that, but how can it possibly bother you enough to warrant creating your own thread to argue with yourself and hype yourself up into an insulting frenzy? That you're confusing your own opinions as given facts I'd almost let slide, although given that you're also trying to make a derisory comment about my intelligence I'm not sure I can let it go. It certainly doesn't come off well on your part that you haven't got a grasp of the basic concepts of the English language.
