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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Unbelievable that Chelsea have sold one of the best attacking midfielders to Utd in Mata, to then sign another attacking midfielder on the same day in Salah.

    It shows that Maureen is ****ing diva and cannot reconcile his personality with some others. A classic case of being blinded by his own ego.
     
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  2. Drudeboy

    Drudeboy Well-Known Member

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    Don't listen to the media. Salah is not an attacking midfielder.

    He's a winger, and he works a lot harder in defence than Mata, which is why Maureen likes him.
     
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  3. gooner4ever

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  4. bobo_97

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    Im shocked that they sold Mata ... he is/was their equivalent to Zola! Best player 2 years in a row....maybe wasnt the best defensive player but, here is the thing, he is not a defensive player! Look at Ozil...he is rubbish defensively but doesnt mean you dont need him the team. If United now change things around...get a winger and put mata as nr 10 ...then they will be very dangerous.
     
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  5. Arsenal87

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    United's defence is poor, so even if they improve attack, their defence is quite ****, plus they need more than just 1 winger and Mata, they need some top quality deep lying midfielders, players better than Carrick and whatever **** play they play beside him that position.
     
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  6. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    You are right, Salah is a winger, and a very good one at that!
     
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  7. Diego

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    If we improve our attack we may beat you 2 or 3 nil instead of 1nil, since our **** defence is the same one you can`t score against.
     
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  8. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    Your **** defense=Struggling to make Europa, and humiliated in both domestic cups, and no chance of a UCL win.
    Our defense=Top of the league, Last 16 in FA Cup, and a decent chance to beat Bayern
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    I love how the United fans think their team is relevant again because they got Mata <laugh> Let's see how well he, Rooney and Van Pussy play when they won't be in Europe next season <laugh>
     
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  9. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    We had an off day in attack that day, simple as that, wasn't down to your defence. Your defence is weak, as for our defence, having the best defence in the league, speaks for itself. :).

    But it's going to be good when we play and beat you next month, will finally be able to shut you stupid Mancs the **** up. Keep holding on to that 1-0 win, I know it gives you some false sense of comfort that that game somehow proves your team is still better than Arsenal, when you're in such a desperate position as United currently are, I guess those are the things you have to cling onto.

    Anyways, enjoy 7th.
     
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  10. Arsenal87

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    The funny thing is, they are soiling themselves at that triple prospect of players playing together, but they don't realise it doesn't actually work, because Rooney is the one that plays that number 10 role behind the striker, which is where Mata is most effective, so either Moyes will have to play Mata outwide, thus nullifying his main use, or he'd have to drop Rooney or RVP. Or Moyes could go with 4-4-2, but that would mean Mata would have to play as a CM, again, a role he's not accustomed to, and it would be quite a light midfield if they go with Mata, another CM, and 2 wingers, in these days of 5 men in the middle, they wouldn't do so well like that, especially in the big games.
     
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  11. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the United war chest completely pissed away then.
     
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  12. Mantis

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    Buying a player like Mata for them, doesn't make a lot of tactical sense with the players they have. Will be interesting to see how Moyles works around that.
     
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  13. ToledoTrumpton

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    I will be interested to see how he does at United. I was on the end of a mauling in a few threads because I never rated the guy, even when he was at the top of his popularity.

    He is a lot better when playing through the middle, but he was one of those players that looks great while everyone around him looks poorer. Ozil is a player that has assists, but somehow makes everyone around him look great while appearing average himself. Of course I don't think Ozil is average, he just looks it sometimes.

    I think you might find that Mata does ok statistically at United but the performance of Rooney and RVP (if he ever gets fit again) will go down when you put him in there. Mata will not come deep for the ball, so one of those two will have to. It seems like a desperate move from Moyes, because Mata seems totally unlike his sort of player. If SAF was signing him, I'd be worried he was going to be the next Paul Scholes, but with Moyes I have my doubts.

    Mata plays as a striker not a midfielder and he profits from a team essentially playing a 4-4-1-1. If you have a team good enough to win the midfield with 4, then he is OK, but gets a striker's number of assists and doesn't score enough goals.

    United's problem is that they are shipping too many goals. This is going to make them let in a few more, and I don't think Mata is going to get them enough extra goals (not ones he "takes" from other players) to compensate for that. Last season, when Mata had such a great year statistically, Torres had terrible numbers.
     
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    all 4 big boys drawn together...
     
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  15. VanGaalOut

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    because Torres is one of the worse strikers in the league lol he play inside right or cam behind Rooney or RVP
     
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  16. ToledoTrumpton

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    I'm sorry, I'm going to decline the unwritten invitation to debate this with you. There are just so many things I find wrong with the letters you have randomly arranged on the quoted line, that my head very nearly exploded.

    I am happy to believe that the fault is all mine, but just know that I am framing this for my children as a cautionary tale, on what happens to your brain if you neglect studies, and become a Manchester United supporter!
     
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  17. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Cabaye has joined PSG from Newcatle for a whopping 20m. At that price it's difficult for Toon to turn it down, especially as the player has wanted a move since we bid for him in the summer. But I think they will badly miss him, he has been their creative engine in midfield and I fear for them without him.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25917101
     
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  18. PeterRICK

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    Yeah no point hanging onto a player who wanted out. He surprised me this season though. I thought he was decent but wasn't blown away when we got linked. In fairness he's been playing brilliantly so hats off to him. Be interesting to see how often he plays for PSG.

    With regards to United Moyes has supposedly got a bucketload to spend. Given he's now forked out 70m on two players I'll be interested to see what other purchases he's made. 2 or 3 more at that cost and he'd have to be not only stopping the rot but turning them into world beaters as you can't spend that kind of cash without getting results!

    *Unless you're Spurs...
     
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  19. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Now there's a team who know how to piss money up the wall.
     
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  20. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Well, if Mata doesn't work out for them, and I reckon it is 50/50 at best, he is setting a standard even Spurs cannot match.
     
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