You cannot evolve a badge like it can be done with business cards since it is part of the tradtion. Same with the colors of a club, you keep them forever even though some additional patterns may be introduced once in a while. Outside the UK you will hardly find any club that ever changed the badge without being torn apart by their fanbase.
........or going with an early kick-off to accommodate live TV coverage - this happens to us all the time, get over it. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25885920 Genoa v Sampdoria: Fans boycott derby over early start Genoa's derby with Sampdoria next Sunday is being boycotted by supporters' groups on both sides because of the early kick-off time. The match at Stadio Luigi Ferraris is kicking off at 12:30 local time (11:30 GMT) on 2 February so that it can be shown live on television. "To play the derby at 12:30 is an atrocious decision," wrote Genoa's ultras, their hardcore fans. Sampdoria's Ultras Tito Cucchiaroni said: "A derby at 12:30 is an insult." please log in to view this image
On the money Col what I thought first time out ... Exactly that but Reading's is weak and without the words it's could be anyone's even ours to the untrained eye Using London is for me is essential take away Queens park rangers on my design it's still QPR Badges get set in stone and we forget them as they blend into the ID of what they represent ... Our club as said before is in a unique position as we are about to grow and will need a enlarged fan base ... Football is bigger than a lot of things and its is a business and it will only get bigger Time to make the hoops belong to just one team regardless of the true history
Good points We have new stadium plans and we have to fill it Our reinvention will means lot of heartbreak to many including me I hope QPR comes out still QPR the reason why I have made this design
With great respect , our team doesn't play outside of the UK. I'm struggling to think of any English clubs crest that hasn't evolved and respect to you if you can find one. Do you honestly think our crests from the last 30 years are ANYTHING like our original ? As I say again, they evolve with the times.
If that's the case Butthead then I suppose you want us to change back to our original badge from the late 1800's and into green and white hoops then?
Say hello to DT you rude bugger.* Paul, a little arrowhead on the tail of the Q and we are in Itchycoo Park. * apologies, didn't spot your earlier post.
Certainly I do not want continuous changes just because we do have a new club owner or some other dodgy reason for doing so. What is the reason following your club if it is not for tradition. If you accept that they keep changing the badge, the site where they are playing where are we going to stop - can we expect that QPR will get a new name in the near future. Sorry Swords, but if if nothing counts anymore why keep supporting the R´s - actuall some people here sound very opportunistic.
Reasons to follow your club apart from tradition: - birth - geography - emotional attachment - bloody mindedness/ stupidity - addiction Personally, if the kit, badge, location and name of the club changed I'd still be stuck with it as long as I could draw a line back to the team I started supporting as an 11 year old in 1972. The ****ing badge is completely irrelevant to this. We didn't even have a badge on our shirts in the 67 league cup final, probably our greatest single day. Paul has done a great job in designing something that resonates, is very flexible as a brand identifier and also looks cool. But frankly its not that important to those of us who mainline QPR, straight into the vein.
I don't have a tattoo, but I don't see an issue with the badge changing if you have one. It becomes more of a badge of honour then surely? Proves you're not some Johnny-come-lately, you've been R's since *points at oldest badge on forearm/chest/genitalia*
All valid points you mention but other than you I cannot just draw a line back to my childhood and carry on supporting the R´s if everything changes. That would be only a faint memory to old times but I am living today AND want to see the history at all times. With no old badge left, the stadium soon relocated and players changing all the time I would eventually lose addiction.
Welcome back DT. How are things progressing in the Languedoc? Must say not v keen on badge proposals but as SB says I'm less concerned about the badge than the overall heart of the club. Owners & badges come and go but we, the fanbase are the club. Swiss Tony is; albeit a decent one, just one in a long line of temporary custodians
Butthead, I don't want the badge changed FFS! I want us to keep the one we have. But my point stands. You said a Club shouldn't change its crest or colours. Then if that's the case, would you be happy we went back to our original crest and colours (blue and navy as Soopy correctly corrected!) ? Remember, we've only been playing consistently in blue and white hoops since the 40's or summat (Sooper?). And have you seen our crest for the 1st half of the 20th Century? It looks SH*TE
Barnsley had a poll to choose a new badge recently and they showed their history of badges, and they'd had three times the different badges that we have. They've always been Barnsley, and they've always been red. Why should a new badge mean your worst case scenario is likely? As for the ground, we've had the most home grounds of any club haven't we? Not sure a move to a mile up the road, is a sign of impending doom for QPR.
A Badge may change in the early stages after the club had been founded - this to me very natural. But after more than 100 years of existence I cannot see any reason why the badge should be changed again yet why it had to change several times within the last 50 years, no need to touch the status quo just because marketing department had a new idea. LR has been the residence for QPR a long time now (all I have ever seen) and wanting to move them now somewhere else is quite a change of course - but I do not reject this change but honestly doubt that we will ever fill a much bigger stadium without having big success. So we will become the new Chelsea or something like them but still different and of course famous.