Ozil is fantastic, he just not setting the world alight in his first season. Still impressive but the fact a striker dropping deep has a better rate than him says it all.
Rooney-RVP play in DIFFERENT POSITIONS, how hard is that for you to get? And for how better your players are, that's why you're 7th, and we're first. . If that's better players, then please, I'd love to have Cazorla who is a level below them. Speaking of Cazorla, he is better than every midfielder that's currently on your roster, Kagawa, Nani, Valencia, none of your midfielders have anything on Cazorla. But let me guess, you also think your midfield is stronger than ours? Yeah, ok, you're a ****ing idiot.
You're not very bright are you? You are saying Ozil hasn't set the world on fire, and yet he is still our top assist maker, and the 2nd assist maker in the league, now for a player who isn't on fire, and only on his first season, these stats are excellent. But you don't put 2 and 2 together, by your own admission a player not firing on all cylinders is already top of the charts, so what's going to happen when he finally gets used to the league and improves? ;-).
Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Cazorla, Arteta, Flamini, OXO, Gnarby, Rosicky is a better midfield any day of the weak ahead of Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverly, Nani, Young, Kagawa Valencia, Giggs, Jones, Adnan, Mata. You'd have to be out of your f**king mind and biased up to your ass to think the latter is more superior and better. At the end of the day, that's why we're top fighting with Chelsea and City, while United are 7th, having lost 7 out of 8, 6 of them being home.
Calm down child. Not once have I said your players are ****. We are comparing players and the ones you chose are not better than the best United have to offer. The reason we are 7th is we are going through a frankly laughable period. The simple fact is United are a better team. If you need evidence of that then you should just give up now. In terms of form however, you have it, we dont. and who mentioned kagawa? I doubt many, if any would suggest Ozil, Carzola and Walcott are better than RvP, Rooney & Mata. We are talking about 3 of the leagues most consistent and productive players in terms of both goals and assists. Your midfield pisses all over our absolute ****ing shambles of a midfield as well.
How do you have a better team when you admit we piss all over your midfield? When it comes to defence, your defence isn't better than ours, which is why we have the best defence in the league. And no, Mata is not better than Ozil, and he never will be. What evidence for you being a better team? What happened in the past is OVER, and it was mainly down to SAF, so don't bring up past achievement as some sort of evidence, ESPECIALLY when during that time our team was still being moulded and gelled together, and players were still trying to find their form such as Ramsey. The only evidence we need currently, is the league table, thats it, the league table doesn't lie, as it stands, Arsenal ARE the better team than United, we are 1st, you are 7th, can't get any better evidence than that.
Oh you mention Walcott, again you have no idea about what the **** you are talking about, the man ended last season with 21 goals, and even with his injuries this season, he scored 6 goals, if he wasn't injured this season, he'd be well on his way of scoring 20+ goals again. So you don't know what you are talking about when trying to argue Walcott is not a consistent goal scorer, he is now.
I would take our current line up over RVP-Rooney-Mata any day of the week. 3 players don't make a team, and one of the players you mention isn't even better than our main maestro Ozil. And I'd say Mata is just a bit above Cazorla, so nothing majorly special for us to have Mata now, we don't need him.
GK = were better RB = Equal between Sagna and Rafael CB = your better CB = your better LB = dont rate Gibbs but Evras a liability in defence. equal CM = your better CM = your better AM = were better AM were better AM were better ST = were better Also if your team was being molded the past decade, then ours is being molded now. Attack is sorted, GK is sorted. The likes of Vidal, Shaw, Gundogan, Kroos etc strongly linked with us right now. Interesting times to come. usually buy a superstar every few years, might get 2 or 3 in one window.
I dunno about Jose being rattled by Wenger, but this thread has sure got Arsenal fans wound up. The trophies aren't handed out in January too
The only ones who are getting rattled are the younger Arsenal fans and Wenger. Wenger knows what a world class signing can do for a team, he knows the boost they can have so hes fully aware that United will kick on now. Will we get top 4? Ahead of Liverpool, Spurs and Everton..... you would think so now Mata the creative wizard has arrived. The fans I am unsure what they are worried about. They are quite a distance ahead of us so this season Arsenal will have a rare finish above United. I'm sure unlike Wenger they are not thinking about next season and beyond.
Ok, there's no longer any need to continue this discussion when a United fan really thinks that United have a better attacking midfield line up than Arsenal, hahahahahahahah, man you're a funny guy. And you're linked to big players currently, and so are we, so bring it on, we have the money now to spend on bringing top quality players, we already have a very strong team anyway, so only need 1-2, while you need wholesale changes and a dramatic makeover.
Hahaha you are in fantasy land if you think one good player is going to carry you on, but anyways, this is good, because when you continue to fail this season, I'm going to be here laughing at you. Yeah I'm sooooo rattled by a team in 7th, having lost 7 in a month, with 6 coming at home. Yeah man, we're all really quivering here, because only 1 player is going to turn all of that around. You are dumb.
Nice of you to concede the argument. perhaps your not a bitch child after all. We have a better attack. Dont let the fact our best striker ( your former best player by a mile ) has been injured along with Rooney ( better than anything you have to offer in attack or the hole ) being out for a while fool you. Add to that Mata, the leagues best chance creator ( best chance creator with the 2 best finishers in the PL........ I dont even need to continue beyond this point but I will for your sake ), the leagues best attacking teenager and you have quite a formidable attacking unit. Attacking midfield or strikers or the lot combined. Ours is better.
**** sake are you still here, thought you would be long gone, considering you dont care (apparently) when i logged back on, i understand you are rattled, but calm down pal, take a chill pill and relax.
I have a feeling you will be on suicide watch next season. dont ask me why, its just something in what you say. Next season is going to be the worst year of your life and youve had some awful years.
We may not win anything, but we sure currently are better than United. And we sure have improved from seasons before, from scrapping for the top 4, to being at the top of the league fighting for the championship, so we're at the level we want to be, and the signs are that we will continue to improve. So trophy or no trophy, most of us have seen what we wanted to see, most Arsenal fans at the end of last season said we want to be challengers this year, we want to compete, for the title, rather than struggle for top 4. So improvements are being made.
Rival fan giving fair opinion on Arsenal forum = Arsenal fans sudden onset of a heavy period. Seriously, some of you children need to grow up. Its a shame the more adult members of your board are elsewhere.
You were on **** form even when Rooney and RVP were playing, so don't let their absence fool you into thinking that's the reason behind your downfall. And you prove how **** your team is, 2 main players out, and you crumble, but if you're a better 'team' than Arsenal, then surely you should be able to cope, rather than fall into relegation form. At the end of the day, here's what matters, not your bullshit manc spin job propaganda and hype, all that matters is the league table, where you sit 7th, and we sit top. You can keep hyping your team up because you're depressed and it's the only thing you can do, but on the pitch, where the things actually happen, you are utter sh!te. You won't make top 4 this season, just wait and see. One player isn't going to turn things around for you.