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January Transfer Rumours Thread

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Super G Ted'inho, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Dan Kennett may be quite clever in manipulating statistics and then presenting his findings as facts. If you have studied Marketing Research then you would understand that such actions are fatally flawed.

    As far as I am aware, Mr Kennet is not a chartered accountant and has no experience in the presentation of corporate financial information. Therefore this statement that LFC only have a £10 million flex under FFP is just laughable. In fact such statements are only designed to create worry in the minds of the average supporter.

    Now, I am not a chartered accountant so I will hazard the guess that if Liverpool wanted to spend in excess of £10 million, they would have absolutely no problems in doing so and either revamping their accounts or taking any aprobation (unlikely) that UEFA may wish to make.
     
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  2. MaturdayNight

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    Lucas

    2013/2014 17(2) games 3.9 tackles 2.5 interceptions 2 fouls
    2012/2013 24(2) games 4.7 tackles 2.5 interceptions 2 fouls
    2011/2012 12 games 5.7 tackles 2.8 interceptions 1.6 fouls
    2010/2011 32(1) games 5.2 tackles 2 interceptions 2 fouls
    2009/2010 32(3) games 4.2 tackles 2.4 interceptions 1.8 fouls

    average per match

    M'Vila

    2013/2014 R. Kazan 17 games 1.6 tackles 1.6 interceptions 1 fouls
    2012/2013 Rennes 11(5) games 1.5 tackles 1.6 interceptions 0.3 fouls
    2011/2012 Rennes 38 games 3.1 tackles 2.5 interceptions 0.8 fouls
    2010/2011 Rennes 37 games 2.9 tackles 2.4 interceptions 1.1 fouls
    2009/2010 Rennes 33(2) games 3.1 tackles 2.1 interceptions 0.8 fouls

    average per match

    Stats don't show everything but M'Vila's really dropped off in the last 2 years. Worth noting he gets dribbled past only 0.8 times per match (career average) as opposed to Lucas who gets beaten 1.3 times per game.
     
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  3. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    Blimey thats some deep statage Maturday! And im a man who likes stats
     
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  4. Milk not bear jizz

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    Nah... those stats just suggest the opposition know better than to try letting the ball go near M'Vila. Don't pass the ball to the guy M'Vila is marking!
     
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  5. MaturdayNight

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    I had to edit it down!
    Think defensive stats are worthwhile though. They basically say Lucas was/is amongst the best players in the league in his role.
     
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  6. I don't do stats
     
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  7. MaturdayNight

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    Some are more valuable than others.
     
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  8. Too many variables to use them in caprisons
     
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  9. Sir_Red

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    Has anyone seen him play much? What's he like?
     
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  10. Enricky.

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    What's he like? He seems fairly likeable person <ok>
     
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  11. astro

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    Yes, because he will play. Lucas is finished.

    #unwelcometruth
     
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  12. MaturdayNight

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    There are a lot of variables, even when considering defensive stats (less deceptive than goals/assists though), however I think in this case the stats correlate well with the general perception of both players. Lucas is still highly regarded as a ball winner, but concedes too many fouls and can be exploited in one on ones, especially by players with pace. M'Vila has struggled in the past few seasons to replicate his early form and despite his physical qualities he isn't a great tackler. All these comments are reflected by the stats.
     
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  13. Daveunited

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    Johnny Georgopoulos &#8207;@YanniRamone 2 hrs
    Draxler fee/personal terms agreed. Arsenal representatives fly out to Gelsenkirchen tomorrow to wrap up the deal
     
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  14. Enricky.

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    Why are you posting this here? There's an Arsenal board for this **** <ok>
     
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    arrested three times in the past three years for offences including attacking a restaurant owner after a bout of road rage, using prostitutes and punching a teenage boy who had shown an interest in his sister.

    All in all a fairly likeable person.
     
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  17. He seems to like Sakho <ok>
     
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  18. Enricky.

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    Now we know whys he's good mates with #thebeassttttttSakho
     
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  19. The main reason I don't like the stats you provided is because the depend on the quality of team they are playing in. A DM is going to have lower stats playing for a Barcalona than he is playing for someone like Place or Sunderland.
     
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  20. Foredeckdave

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    AT LAST! Somebody who actually interprets what the stats might mean. I'm sick and tired of people using numbers themselves to as decision making. <ok>
     
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