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Ki & Laudrup bust up!

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  1. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Ki Sung-Yueng's father has revealed the details behind his son's spat with Swansea boss Michael Laudrup which led to the player's initial - and continued - loan to Sunderland.


    Speaking in Korea, he explained how an argument over injury grew into mutual distrust and ill-feeling, culminating in Ki's departure. The contract made by both Ki and Swansea includes a clause that the player will be guaranteed to play the least 20 games as a starter which Ki himself wanted and included. The Chelsea game was his 20th game playing as a starter, and this is the game he resulted in heavy injury on his thigh. Ki told Laudrup that he would like to treat his injury in the Korean National Medical Centre as he precisely judged the facilities there are much better than those at the club.

    However, Laudrup mistakenly believed that Ki was trying to make a lame excuse after his 20th game of him being starter so as to slack off as much as he can. That inconsiderate thought of Laudrup led him to him disliking Ki. Laudrup later approved Ki of his suggestion and let him go get treated in Korea, and Ki believed Laudrup fully understood what he told him and took it to his heart with gratitude. When Ki came back, Laudrup brought in new players at his position and started ignoring him and excluding him from game to game. and this continued for a while.

    Ki realised something was wrong, and he asked Laudrup why he can't play as a regular starter. Laudrup said to Ki that he isn't trustworthy as a professional footballer and avoided Ki in any direct conversations. Michael Laudrup's own future at Swansea is now reportedly being called into question, with many newspapers reporting the Dane will leave in the summer after a poor campaign so far. Whether that effects Ki's own future is unknown.

    The reason why Swansea didn't get Ki back [earlier this month when they had an opinion in the loan agreement to recall him] was due to Laudrup's own objection toward the plan, yet the club, unlike Laudrup, wants to keep Ki in a long run. Swansea offered an extension in Ki's contract with better clauses but Ki was obviously worried about Laudrup's dislike of him. So Ki is being cautious. Regardless of Laudrup's future, however, with just one year left on his Swansea contract this summer Sunderland will be in a strong position to sign him should they manage to stay up.

    It's quite obvious how much Ki is enjoying his spell on Wearside under Gus Poyet. Any contract extension at the Liberty Stadium would presumably only really be an option after he has waited to see what any new manager brings and by then the Swans would be risking losing him for nothing. Anyway, let's see if we can ensure survival first before worrying too much about this kind of stuff. It is just one side of the story, after all. Interesting, nonetheless. - michaelgraham
     
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  2. plasticfan

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    That would explain a lot. Doesn't say much about Laudrup's people skills.
     
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    Two sides to every story and doubt we'll have the other side of it any time soon
     
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    Seems you are in the daiswan camp of kicking Laudrup and the club at every opportunity. I have yet to read something positive from you. Ever cross your mind that Michael Laudrup might have an entirely different tale to tell? Did it ever occur to you that Ki's FATHER just might be a tad biased?
     
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    Even though we have an injury crisis, Laudrup didn't get him back. For me, that speaks volumes.

    I'm not kicking Laudrup or the club at all. I just feel that Laudrup's had his day and that we'd improve with a new manager. The reason I'd like to see Laudrup go is because i want the club to do well. So not sure what you're talking about. Why is it so wrong for someone to have the opinion that the manager's not up to it? Seems quite normal to me and nothing whatsoever to do with knocking the club.
     
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    Even IF it were true all it shows is how unprofessional Ki is.

    Imagine,
    You just start for your new firm/employer who are rewarding you handsomely and have outlayed a considerable amount of money (say, six million big ones) to secure your services.
    6 months in a situation arises which means you won't be able to perform in the role for an indefinite amount of time.
    How do you play it?
    Do you;
    a) take your bosses wishes and advice on board showing you are keen to get on here and be a team player?
    Or do you...
    b) advise your boss that you know best and state your desire to go back home (the other side of the World) and will be in touch when you feel able to continue your role?

    Is it any surprise that having taken option b Laudrup decided he couldn't be relied upon and took steps to replace him?
     
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  7. plasticfan

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    If I was the manager I'd think Ki showed some initiative and looks like he made an effort to find a place to get good treatment and get back to work quickly. He's the kind of employee/player I'd want to keep.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Sorry plastic but it's a good job you're not the manager. How does Ki, with his degree in sports physiotherapy ;), know better than our own medical team? Even if the facilities are better over there, he would be out of the club's hands and the squad would lose touch with him during his self-imposed trip.

    That's no way to foster a good team spirit, and to me highlights some the problems I've always felt might be the case with Ki in that he doesn't exactly join in with the team and due to his high-profile status at home might be considered a bit of an ego?
     
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    DPJ I think you must be related to Dai. You absolutely revel in kicking the swans.

    Some fan you are!

    STID.
     
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    <laugh> So anyone who puts up an article raising issues is related to Dai! Now that just about sums up many Jack sheep!...............<laugh>
     
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    Laudrup will be gone end of season, whether he wants to or not, that much I know, damage limitation this season lads. Good post plastic, don't worry about the party whips.........<cheers>
     
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    Imagine = John Lennon!.........................<ok>
     
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    This same article, says that Laudrup had a choice to recall, yet didn't, yet Laudrup said he would have after Canas got injured, only to find THE CLUB made a mistake in the contract with Sunderland.

    Doesn't add up to me. Could be his old man having words trying to get the Swans to consider selling Ki. Or trying to make his son out to be a saint, like most fathers would.
     
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    Good PR by the old man ,can't think why though .<whistle> his son needs to get back in the National Coach's good books after the **** storm he laid on him .
     
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    What I find worrying in all this is that the club are offering contracts with a guaranteed number of starting games.
     
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    What exactly happened here? I never heard about it.
     
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    By Jung Min-ho

    What started as simple comments on his Facebook page has quickly turned into a question as to whether Swansea City midfielder Ki Sung-yueng deserves a spot in Korea&#8217;s Brazil World Cup squad next year.

    Perhaps the 24-year-old&#8217;s mistake was failing to exercise his right to express his opinion only to his close friends and fans; and his wrong presumption that the comments on his &#8220;secret&#8221; Facebook account would really remain a secret.

    Ki, who recently married actress Han Hye-jin, has been hit by a torrent of criticism for the comments aimed at former national team manager Choi Kang-hee.

    Sports writer Kim Hyun-hoe first revealed Thursday in his column, &#8220;SNS controversies; very serious problems,&#8221; that Ki had another Facebook account other than the one he recently deleted.

    According to the column, Ki said on his Facebook wall that &#8220;Thank you for including me in the team, even though I&#8217;m playing in some (second division) national league,&#8221; following Choi&#8217;s comment last year that Scottish football teams are &#8220;all like national league players except for Celtic.&#8221; Ki played for Celtic at that time but still took the offense.

    After Korea&#8217;s World Cup qualifier win against Kuwait in February last year, Ki also said, &#8220;I was shocked that I was left off for the first half, but I&#8217;m sure now everyone knows that the team needs players from overseas leagues.&#8221;

    &#8220;Choi shouldn&#8217;t have touched us. I hope he does not show his arrogance anymore. Otherwise, he might get hurt.&#8221;

    The reactions have been less than welcoming.

    On the heels of the disclosure, many fans criticized Ki&#8217;s comments, questioning his defiant attitude that might hurt the team chemistry, if he joins the squad.

    On Friday, Ki apologized over the controversy in a statement.

    &#8220;Everything is my fault. The (secret) Facebook account was used privately with close friends; it was not for the public. Nonetheless, things that were said were not appropriate as a national football team member,&#8221; Ki said.

    &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry for manager Choi who must have been hurt by my comments. I will focus more on my playing to redeem myself.&#8221;
     
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