I may be misunderstanding you but what you seem to be suggesting is we give up the fight over the name for a seat on the board of Hull Tigers. If you are, I think you have misjudged our campaign.
If the FA reject his application we will not need to discuss options with him, Hull City AFC will remain. Just like if they approve his application, he most certainly will not discuss further any options to safeguard HCAFC and its heritage! Success is achieved by being pro-active. Awaiting a third party decision in this manner, knowing that if what is looking like a close call goes against us will ultimately end Hull City AFC, maybe is not enough!
If you look at it, there should be an easy solution to this matter, what is wrong with the current badge that says "Hull City AFC" at the top and "The Tigers" across the body of the badge. This would market the club just as well as changing the name. As has been said this is now just bloody mindedness, and very little chance of having discussions with him whether FA agree or disagree with his request. On a broader issue, can you imagine if a compromised cannot be found with a person with Arab background about this name change, I pity those in Switzerland at the moment trying to find a solution to the Syrian situation.
Could not be further from the truth! I am talking about the continuation of HCAFC and its heritage without Allam. The club would however have to start from the bottom and work its way back to the football league. It would have the name Hull City AFC and its history, but pretty much nothing else, including no debts. Allam would receive the golden share that allows his club Hull Tigers to play in the premier league. He would keep all the current staff, Kc arrangements, and debt.
You asked this before, but why not suggest the oppsite scenario. What if the person that put in an application to the FA for a club called Hull Tigers before Allam did, offers to let Allam have that and its league status (it's seemingly worth billions) and in return we keep Hull City AFC?
If AA gets his wish and the name change is approved, then there would be nothing stopping someone starting a club called Hull City AFC, there would be no need to make it complicated. The problem you have then, is that the next owner wouldn't be able to change it back.
I don't understand why everyone is saying Hull City AFC and all its heritage and history will die if the name is changed. They are looking to market the same club better, rightly or wrongly. The club will still wear the same colours, have the same history. The history of the club in twenty years would simply say the name was changed in 2014. When Leeds rugby league club became Leeds Rhinos it didn't become a different club.
Leeds Rhinos were founded in 1870. They were originally Leeds St John. Changed name simply to Leeds, now called Leeds Rhinos. Still the same club.
Sorry but you cannot prove that more than 90% of HCSS members are against the name change. Making such statements does more harm than good. 90% of those who responded where against the name change. But only 118 out of 273 members voted that they were strongly against the name change. If the figures are presented as saying 90% the whole poll will be quietly rejected. Suggesting that 118 are a representative amount of the supporter base is even more of an issue. Even the new OSC poll will have little impact on the view that the club is adopting and that is when you take out the hard core supporters, the majority of supporter don't care enough. The petition may have more sway, but I don't think it will. The fact is that CTWD have done an excellent job of lobbying against the change and have brought the subject into the national arena. It can demonstrate that there is no popular support for a change.
That would then be 'Hull Tigers' buying Hull City AFC's place in the league - this loophole was closed by the FA when Wimbledon became MK Dons.
No chance of any deals. AA has said his bit and that is it sadly. I blame HCC for all this hassle. They dealt with the KC takeover in a bad way. Without AA the KC will become a white elephant.
A new club formed from scratch has no association with HCAFC whatever it may be called. I am sure it would not be allowed to be called Hull City AFC in any case. Probably be AFC Hull or similar. Personally, I think CTWD need to be thinking outside the box here. Less than 6 months away from losing Hull City AFC. Does our only hope have to be just to rely on a third party decision! Should we not be talking about possible solutions with both Allam and the FA?
No it won't. Hull City Council receive nothing in rent. If Hull FC pay Hull City Council £10,000 a year both parties would be better off. If Assem Allam keeps the SMC he'd be responsible for the upkeep of the stadium and surrounding area for the next 30 odd years without Hull City's rental contribution.
The FA will talk to us about opposing the application, but nothing else and AA won't talk to us about anything at all at the moment, it's a non-starter.
while i inderstand your argument, even doing the sums the worst possible way still showed that 141 people were against the name change. that one abstained and 8 were neither for nor against tips the figures further. the fact that 3 out of 273 were in favour of the change also speaks loudly.
there will be other polls. that poll may be a representative sample. other polls, which the fa will receive or carry out, will show broadly similar figures.
The FA will receive copies of all the polls that have been done, all those submitted so far are overwhelmingly against the name change, the FSF one closes on Friday(but is 90% against) and we don't know what will happen with the OSC one, but it's likely to follow suit. The FA will be in no doubt that the fans are against the name change, the only opportunity to try and counter all the stats submitted was for AA to do a season ticket holder vote, but he refused, which also works in our favour.
