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Vidic!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by smithy in nl, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    Has had his appeal against his red card rejected, so why doesn't he have a 4 match ban instead of just the 3??

    Or don't they do that anymore?
     
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  2. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    They do, the original appeals panel get paid loads of expenses and that, to spend a day with overnight accomodation to reject the initial one.

    Then another team of ****wits get together to decide if it was frivolous with more expenses and accomodation
     
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  3. Tickler

    Tickler Well-Known Member

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    Im just curious as to why if they have rejected his appeal they havent viewed the Rafael incident

    two footed challenge, obvious sending off
     
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  4. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Somebody enlightened me on the other vidic thread, if the ref has given a card no further action can be taken, its just for if the incident was missed all together, i didnt know that

    Edit : its was trigger finger
     
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  5. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Was Rafael booked for it?
     
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  6. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Aye
     
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  7. Tickler

    Tickler Well-Known Member

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    This was changed as everyone agreed it was a stupid rule

    im sure they changed it so the FA can charge a player regardless of referee decision
     
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  8. Tickler

    Tickler Well-Known Member

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    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/07/fa-loophole-video-evidence-partially-seen-football

    The Football Association has closed the disciplinary loophole that saw Chelsea's Fernando Torres escape action despite being caught on video scratching a rival player.

    From 22 November, the FA will be able to charge players even if match officials have seen part of the incident.

    Torres escaped punishment for scratching Tottenham's Jan Vertonghen because the incident had been "partially seen" by an official even if the full seriousness of the actions had been missed, a case that prompted the FA chairman Greg Dyke to take action to close the loophole.

    The new rules will now cover:

    • Acts of violent conduct that occur secondarily to a challenge for the ball.

    • Off-the-ball incidents where one or more match officials did see the players coming together, but the match officials' view was such that none of them had the opportunity to make a decision on an act of misconduct that took place within that coming together.

    The FA's move to ban Fulham's Sascha Riether for stamping on Manchester United's Adnan Januzaj was not taken under the latest rules, however, as they only come into effect after the international break.

    Riether's case was dealt with via a three-man panel of former elite referees which was brought in during the summer to look at video evidence and in that incident no officials saw the stamp.

    The FA director of governance Darren Bailey said: "This enables the FA to consider acts of violent conduct, like an elbow or a stamp, which have occurred after a challenge for the ball or coming together of players.

    "It is sometimes difficult for officials to see such incidents, as they are often concentrating solely on the challenge for possession of the ball, and we are mindful of this.

    "Also, where off-the-ball incidents are concerned, the policy adjustment will allow action to be taken where an act of misconduct could not have been seen by the match officials, even though they may have seen some part of the players coming together.

    "This is an important step forward for the game and provides an appropriate level of discretion for the FA to consider action. However, we remain of the view that the best outcome for all is that referees are able to make correct judgments on the day to benefit the teams involved."


    However i may also be wrong
     
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  9. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Good crack but the fact he gave a yellow means the ref made a decision so doesnt fit the above
     
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  10. Tickler

    Tickler Well-Known Member

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    daft though really, a red card should be a red card regardless of refereeing decision
     
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  11. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    That's why nowt could be done about it init
     
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  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Yep nowt there that changes the annoying fact that if a ref wrongly issues a yellow for a challenge that should have been red then the incident can't be reviewed.
     
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  13. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Aye mate
     
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  14. whitburnlad

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    Probably best to let the ref decide rather than all us know-alls. That's what he's for after all.
     
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  15. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    They only give a 4 match bans to players from clubs like Sunderland.


    I'll bet anything you like Vidic will not receive an extra match ban. SAF will be making a call to the FA as we speak.
     
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    Well said mate. Pisses me reet off anarl.
     
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  17. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Anyone else remember when Turner was given a red for jumping for a header, then the ****ers had the cheek to extend it when we appealed!
     
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  18. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Yep.
     
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  19. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I think he'll get an extended ban
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Why don't you lot just be happy that Rafael didn't get suspended? He's been shocking this season.
     
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