I agree Billy - With every part. But you cannot blanket criticise players - as a manager you need to know which ones need a kick up the arse and which need a hand around the shoulder to get the best out of them. Ferguson knew - he would blast in the dressing room but he knew exactly which players needed kicking and which needed a gentle word. Di Canio thought everyone needed kicking. I am level 1 FA Coach qualified and that;s part of the first stuff I learned from coaches who've worked at Sunderland and Newcastle who were giving talks at the course.
So as per usual you pick one instance, (last nights match, where there main error was not killing Albion off.) and claim that as proof of your totally irrational dislike of Martinez? If they had won last night they would have been 4th as it is they are 6th. They are also very hard to beat. Sometimes you amaze me a SOFT BELLY? They have only lost twice this season, that is better than the top five above them! Us not beating Everton for all that time has bugger all to do with Moyes. We outplayed them numerous times and never got the breaks. (That is why most of us call them our bogey team.)
Anyone who has eyes can see a marked improvement in Everton, both in style & in the delivery of points. No longer are they outsiders punching above there weight, they look genuinely as good as teams who man for man should be a good deal ahead of them. The man won the cup with Wigan, and now not only has Everton looking natural top 4 material, he has players like Baines clamouring for new contracts rather than to leave the club. I sometimes think you only ever watch Sunderland games mate, I really do, this seasons Everton is a different level to the last few years, in spite of losing the supposed heartbeat in Fellaini.
Boys, I was glad when SAFC sacked PDC. I said from the start he's a loony. I don't want to see you go down, I want to keep having derbies. Still think you will though, GP is a good manager and will get you back up, I just don't think your team can get through this season. Pulis will save Crystal Palace and Fat Sam always scrapes through. Fulham are already gone... no spine in the team..so I think it's you and Cardiff and probably Stoke/Norwich battling it out for last two relegation spots. Whoever thinks I'm a kid, I was born in 1983 son. edit: PDC didn't do jackshit for you. Ofc MON would have kept you up, and probably kicked on, still GP is a better fit all year round. PDC didn't do anything but bring negative press and obliterate team morale.
Youre just a bairn to me kidda as I was nearly 20 and working when you were born I think Gus will keep us up for what its worth and think Fulham, Cardiff and West Ham look far worse than we do right now. We have had our slump early on and have actually got some form going under Gus in the last 2 months. The likes of Swansea are in a big slide as are Hull as well and it will be interesting to see where they end up.
How's that erectile dysfunction coming along then? *I hear ginseng is ace. Guess we'll know in May. I'd just brace myself if I was a mackem.
oneils cause was not helped by having walford as his number two,he offered nothing in the way of offensive tactics ,come to think of it he wasnt a great defender either
I add ginseng to my tea and coffee, not because of erectile dysfunction. I'm a maniac so no problems in that department. I just can't get enough stimulants.
Just been talking to my mate who is an everton season ticket holder he says none of his mates would swap martinez for Moyes just shows how quick a manager gets forgotten when the new man plays better football and has the team at the top.
In the last 7 years, Moyes had them finishing the EPL (starting with last year); 6th; 7th; 7th; 8th; 5th; 5th & 6th. As it stands now, Martinez has done nothing more than equal that not better it and Moyes took Everton to a Cup Semi Final last year as well. With 16 games still to play, it might just be worth waiting before singing the praises of your man. If he doesn't finish higher than 6th then he hasn't been a success at all and has merely managed to replicate Moyes season with the squad that Moyes had already built minus Fellaini. Anyone could have inherited that cracking squad and finished top 6 or 7. Lets see how popular he is after the reds beat them, this weekend as well.
Fellaini was easily the biggest star of that team, the pieces that Martinez has filled in, Barry, Lukaku, have been perfect fit. You will be proved wrong Cest, Martinez has a massive, massive future as a top level manager. I won't say I told you so, cos I'm not a prick, I could say that right now, he is already proving himself at his next level, by keeping a team there after losing it's supposed talisman, and a manager that supposedly performed miracles keeping them in the mix. Funny how suddenly matching Moyes 'wonderful' achievements isn't worthy of merit.
He hasn't actually matched them yet though as the season is 38 games long not 22. If he finishes below 6th he should be shot as Man Utd are a shadow of themselves this season. Nothing has made me alter my opinion that he is a con man and will be found out and when he is, as I'm not a cock either, I wont say I told you so either.
He has a proven track record, Swansea are where they are mainly due to Martinez ground work, he kept a team with a budget a quarter of the size of the next smallest in the league for years AND won the FA Cup. Definitely the hallmarks of a fraud & a con man mate, wonder how many Swansea, Wigan & Everton fans feel short changed...
Didn't Swansea get promoted and into Europe after he left them? It was Paulo Sousa who laid the groundwork of the Swansea revolution and weren't Wigan actually relegated - granted albeit winning a cup final? He had Wigan in the bottom 3 or 4 for about 3 seasons before he eventually took them down after 8 years in the top flight after decent seasons under Jewell and Bruce? Hardly the background of a potential top manager in my opinion. Martinez bottled the Liverpool and Villa jobs as he knew he needed to rebuild both clubs and he simply doesn't have the ability to do so. He has always picked jobs carefully and gone to clubs where the hard groundwork has already been done and then he can 'hide' for a while in the shadows of other mens work. He will be totally found out at Everton when Moyes squad needs rebuilding in say another 18 months and then his obvious limitations as a manager will be properly exposed. By that time though, the Everton fans will more than likely be begging for the return of Moyes.
