It also might mean losing it. I would take players back, but I think RVP is a big player who would, playing as a lone striker, completely change how we play and right now we are doing well without him, change is not necessarily always good.
If Wenger made a decision to sign an ex-player then as a fan I'd support that player when he plays for us.RVP made a decision to leave us so why should he come back just because his current team are ****e
It's all about making good use of the resources you have. Who says you have to change your system? how about tweaking the system to suit the players you have? Giroud has got us playing a particular way which has brought us some significant success, but what if we can't break an opposing team, or if Giroud is off form or injured? It doesn't have to be RVP but someone of a similar class would help improve the strength and depth of our squad. It would give Wenger options. At present Wenger has very little options with both Bendtner and Walcott out. Giroud isn't a machine, and neither is he so good that he can do it all by himself.
Fair enough but I want Arsenal to have the best possible squad to achieve winning the Premiership. Even if it means bringing the ingrate, that is RVP back, so be it.
No - I accept that, but if we got RVP he wouldn't be playing backup to Giroud. And RVP cannot play "like Giroud". Now you may see that as a positive, I am not sure it is. We have a superstar-laden midfield. We need an understatement at striker, not a sulky prima donna. I see it as a positive that we have an unglamorous water-carrier for a striker. Every time I watch him play, I like him more, for his hard work and willingness to work for the rest of the team. He also shows his emotions and you live all his disappointments and successes with him. Sorry, win or lose, I'm supporting him. I don't want any striker that is going to push him out of the starting line up.
You must have missed him playing against Fulham then as he was proper pants. I could have played up front for us and we'd still have won two nil if his contribution was anything to go by. I don't even think his work rate (normally his strong point) was all that. Before anyone errupts I accept you're allowed off days! Some fans seem to have put him on a sort of pedestsal for the what he brings to the team and it baffles me. Giroud isn't the only player capable of physically holding the line and bringing others into play. There are plenty of big old units out there who bustle around, contribute manfully all over the park and nick the odd goal. City have both Negredo, Everton/Chelsea have Lukaku, Villa have Benteke and even Swansea have Bony (who I've been impressed with this season). I like OG (bar Saturday), I like how we play with him, I like his attitude and I like our position in the league and yet I think there are improved versions of him out there. However, rather than replace him, I'd much rather we had a solid plan B. Right now that's NB52 (which horrifies me), which is a lesser version of the same. Giroud brings a lot to the side but there will be games where he's not what you want, it might be pace and trickery or whatever. As it stands we're predictable. That's fine when we play most of the 'lower' teams as we've still enough quality to beat them but the bigger boys also have that talent along with the ability to tweak their systems to handle us. RVP, love him or hate him (and I hate him btw) would offer us a whole new dimension. Assuming his legs haven't fallen off. If that's the case it's not not a new dimension for us, it's sadly predictable!
Yes. He is a class player. He would improve this team and has played in this system successfully before. **** the rest - as most here know my thoughts on loyalty so that side of it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Bar his injury issues I see no other reason we wouldn't.
Turn the question on its head If it could be somehow guarenteed that the resigning of Van Persie would result in Arsenal winning the league title (and let's be fair, Van Persie is a player who would at least certainly add weight to that possibility than detract from it), then would you take him back? Any Arsenal fan who says they wouldn't is an Arsenal fan who is allowing pride to favour a non-winning title side from a side that could very well win the title. Of course Arsenal should take RVP back. Or ask it another way - would any Arsenal fan have preferred RVP hadn't have left in the first place?
I'd urge Wenger to sign Ian Brady if doing so would guarantee the league title - hell, I'd even accept Ashley Cole back under those circumstances.
If it GUARANTEES THE TITLE yes. But that's hypothetical. This is the real world. An aging, injured, probably past his peak RvP whose insulted the club returning would never work. We already have a good system in place and RvP just won't fit in it. Team morale is at an all time high, and part of the reason we're doing so well, and I'm sure resigning the **** who disrespected the club will hurt that. Just ask Ramsey.
i actually read it as Liam Brady not Ian Brady ! signing ex players is dependant on their manner of exit, where they went, and on how they spoke about us once they went. Henry, Cesc both went abroad, both spoke highly of us and their love of Arsenal, and would be welcomed back. Cole, RVP, Nasri, Cliche, Adabyour went to rivals, went for money, and have slagged us off. so no to them returning.
Loyalty is a one-way street when it comes to fans. Fans love it when a player signs for them. They give not one toss about the loyalty that the player who signed for them had for their previous club. Loyalty only ever works when it comes to a player leaving the club that the fans don't want to leave.
Haha, I'd had Dzeko in my list initially and then thought "nah, he's big, but he doesn't put the shift in the others do" so removed him. Ineffectually! Two Negredo's is a fecking scary thought...
