How in any way was Button to blame? He kept to the racing line, Hamilton was not even fully past his rear wheels, and Button obviously did not see Hamilton.
It's funny how the Lewis fans can't stop trying to compare Vettel to Lewis and how they say only overtaking makes a "racer". You lot must be really angry and scared of him beating Hamilton for the rest of his career, it must be because you think when Alonso retires in let's say 5-6 years your boy has a clear run......oh dear doesn't look like that anymore. Still yet wondering why Lewis didn't select kubica over jenson for the 2010 season. Robert would of most likely won the title in that thing the way the rest were pissing points down the drain...
I think it's obvious why Button is to blame, it's because otherwise it would be Hamiltons fault and he's God apparently.
Sorry Guest but I disagree, Jenson is already moving to the racing line and is allowed to do so (watch Jensons car move slowly to the left). You can see Jenson claiming his line even before Lewis plants his front wing inline with Buttons rear, maybe not as sharply as Lewis but he's heading there and it should of been obvious that it was only a matter of seconds before he put his car there. If Lewis was really thinking, he would of taken the straight line advantage he had, gone right instead of left and would of most likely got infront. He's expecting too much from Jenson to keep the door open for him all the time when he's making the overtake, sorry but Jenson is a racer too, not just Lewis' "overtake buddy", he cant have it all his own way expecting to fold over every time Lewis is behind him.
'Racers' are allowed to get past under any circumstances. Others are clearly not as good. Drivers who will not move off the racing line should be admonished by the stewards, possibly getting banned for their lack of cooperation. Let the overtaker beware, some drivers do not understand the new rules.
Speaking as primarily a Lewis and Maclaren fan: They've both apologised. Jenson said he didn't see him, Lewis chose the wrong side to overtake, they crashed. Quite why people have to bash Hamilton so hard about it I don't know. In the same breath, Hamilton's "extreme" or "deluded" supporters need to accept he was in part at fault. It was a racing incident, an accident. **** happens, move on and forget about it.
Could you point out a post where that occurs, McLarwum? I'm not saying there isn't one but I just had another quick scan and I couldn't find it.
I like nearly all the drivers, why not? But they all want to win, and are not likely to yield happily. What is not realistic is to expect a driver leading, on the racing line, to just move off!! Hamilton has just been too impatient lately - if he will only choose better moments he will see the improvement in his fortunes.
I do see Hamster baiting on this forum but most comments are fair I think. As I see it, Lewis has one simple problem to resolve ASAP: to stop trying to win the race so early. I know it's supposedly not in his nature to hang back but Shanghai proved he can calculate very carefully when and how to pull the right moves.
I think the reaction to the blinkered Hamilton fans' (not the general Hamilton supporters, just those who can't bear any discussion that doesn't consider him to be infallible and thus must find fault in his rivals' behaviour to explain his mistakes away) closed-mindedness can be robust but I don't remember anyone bashing him outright. It might constitute Hamelot-baiting (I don't even know the derivation of that term - sounds like Camelot to me) but there's not much in the way of bashing Hamilton himself unless, as AG points out, MacLarwum is referring to Lauda, Moss and Fittipaldi.
It's not only limited to this thread, it's a general thing. Still, at least one example in this thread could be : It's not even that strong in terms of bashing, perhaps this was the wrong thread to choose to post about it but there are comments all over the forum. Just take a look at wakkal for example. But still it is a general thing, people clearly have a dislike for him which is fair enough and there is a stronger dislike for people that blindly support him, which I get as well. However those that complain that his supporters view his antics with rose tinted glasses, can sometimes be over critical and view him with whatever-the-opposite is of rosetinted glasses. Example: I believe I am correct in thinking Kobayashi went through a spate of accidents and got nicknamed "Kobaybashi"?? Perhaps I am just too middle of the road and try and understand things from all sides and I appreciate it's good to have some stronger opinions to discuss. He's headline stuff at the moment and is therefore going to generate discussions, be they good or bad.
Yep, I think I may be interpreting the dislike for Hamilton's more eager fans as a dislike for Hamilton himself. But it is across the board, Lauda and Fittipaldi, BBC sensationalistic jounralism etc etc. The list goes on and it will probably go away as quickly as it came about.
There seems to be a general rule of proportion: the better the driver, the more polarised opinions become. Last year it was Alonso's turn, this year it's Hamilton, next year Vettel, probably, though Button gets plenty too. It was the same for Schumacher, Senna and Prost though the internet must exacerbate the situation. It's too easy to label people as 'fanboys' or 'haters' and a poor substitute for reasoned debate but it's unlikely to go away.
I think that's exactly what most of the forum wants, too. You're right about wakklfc - I'd forgotten about him. He only shows up to gloat when Hamilton makes a mistake though.
You remember how swearing was banned on the BBC 606? Of course you do! How about we encourage swearing but ban the words 'fanboy' and 'hater'?
