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The non-Watford football thread

Discussion in 'Watford' started by North North Watford, May 1, 2012.

  1. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    Got a late winner - with Vaughan up front they have a couple of potentially top strikers now.
     
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  2. oldfrenchhorn

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    The three promoted clubs have now released their accounts for last season.

    Cardiff
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    Turnover: 14.56m (-3m)
    Wages: 29.97m (+9m)
    Loss: 30.95m
    Overall Debt: 69.37m

    As has been well reported they have added another 36m to that debt already.

    Hull
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    Turnover: 11.08m (-16m)
    Wages: 25.89m (+5m)
    Loss: 29.14m
    Overall Debt: 72.169m Another 11m on transfers now.

    Crystal Palace
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    Turnover: 14.51m (-0.5m)
    Wages: 18.76m (+8m)
    Profit: 3.55m *
    Overall Debt: 7.41m Transfers since then are 19m
    * Without transfers they would have had a trading loss of 12m

    These figures suggest that wages and turnover can be ignored providing you have someone prepared to accept accumulating debt.
     
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  3. Bolton's Boots

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    Those turnover figures don't include expected revenue from TV though. Income from domestic & overseas TV is over £30M for each EPL club - surely would soak up any trading deficit from their Championship season.
     
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  4. oldfrenchhorn

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    These are for the previous season when they didn't get EPL monies.
     
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  5. Bolton's Boots

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    You replied too quickly... <laugh>
     
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  6. FosseFilberto

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    True .... but the 'gamble' still pays off I guess? ... evn if they go straight back down with parachutes....
     
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  7. Bolton's Boots

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  8. Scullion

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    Some of these figures are eye watering and no way to run any business, but then while you have mugs that sub £m's to the club there does not seem any way to stop it. I often wonder what kind of kick the owners get for loaning (writing off) all that money and if they can afford to do that why don't they give it to charity?
     
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    Leaving aside the practical difficulties I like it. It works really well in rugby and might just be the solution to players continually abusing referees and diving / play acting. An alternative, of course, would be to go back to the old days where referees actually send players off for swearing at them. I fear things have gone too far but anything we can do to get proper respect and just good manners back into the game has to, in my opinion, be welcomed.
     
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  10. Bolton's Boots

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    Tend to agree there - although getting respect and good manners into the game may well be a pipe dream. I'm assuming that, if implemented, it would apply to specific offences - such as simulation/abuse/time wasting etc - and would see the introduction of another coloured card.

    That article also mentions revisiting the offside laws - if that happens, I hope they don't b*lls it up as they did the last time, far too many contentious decisions flying around currently.
     
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  11. geitungur akureyrar

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    Eiður Smári Guðjohnsen might leave Club Brugge and join Zulte-Waregem. Even with 35 he could teach Troy some new tricks.
     
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  12. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

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    As a spectator I think a lot of games are ruined when a player is sent off. I like to see an equal contest. I would allow a sub on for the red carded player and increase the penalty for the player sent off.
     
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  13. Bolton's Boots

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    Sounds reasonable - a bit like Basketball I suppose. I also think the Aussie Rules system is worth considering - players guilty of 'red card' offences are not sent off but put on report. Their fate is sealed at the next Judiciary meeting, usually straight after the week-end.
     
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  14. oldfrenchhorn

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    According to the Beeb, the Southampton owner wants an immediate sale to get the family money back and the crackpot at Hull is threatening to sell up within 24 hours if he doesn't get his way over the name change. Seems as if you need a lot of luck over owners these days
     
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  15. wear_yellow

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    Real surprise what is happening at Soton, I thought they were considered to be one of the "better run" clubs? After listening to 5 Live it all seems a bit strange...remember a few seasons ago those smug Soton fans coming on here giving it the high and mighty?
     
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    That had completely slipped my mind <whistle>
     
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  17. wear_yellow

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    Just checked a few threads on the Soton board -they are going into meltdown. They believe the press stories that the manager will leave in the morning and the evil witch owner will sell all the players - apparently Lambert has already been sold to West Ham! Whilst I hate to see fans going through this crap, I do have a small smirk on my face after some of the crap they gave us.
     
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  18. HaslemereKev

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    Watching what is happening at So'ton is interesting as I lived there for so long, have plenty of So'ton supporting mates (including my house mate)

    I can't see there being a fire sale of players there though. Surely the club is worth a lot more with the best players still there? With the stadium, new training facilities and the youth set up, they would be an attractive proposition for anyone wanting to buy a Premiership football team. With so few teams on the South coast, their support potential is almost unlimited as well

    Also, if Cortese handed in his resignation without Pochettino knowing, then he may feel a certain level of distrust towards him, so his reasons for leaving if Cortese does would disappear, so he may stay!

    Saying all that.... if I was a team like Arsenal, I'd be putting in bids for the likes of Shaw, Ward-Prowse, Lallana and Schneiderlin!
     
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  19. Bolton's Boots

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    Malky is already one of the early favourites to take over at Soton. I'd say a slide down the table is imminent....
     
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  20. Scullion

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    I hope this does not destroy all the good work that has been done. I was at Uni in Soton and went to the Dell occasionally. I was sad to see them decline but everything has been put right and they are back in the Prem and hope they stay.
     
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