How about providing a few answers? Will the club not grow in the PL as Hull City, what difference does Hull Tigers make? What evidence is there to suggest that additional generated income would not also be attracted as Hull City? What makes you think we'll be in admin if we don't change our name?
If the club goes into liquidation, he loses £80-100m, does that sound likely to you? Football debt is given preferential status too, so they players would be paid in full before he got anything.
He could walk and the club falls into administration but as he is also a creditor in the form of the loans he would be asked to accept a substantially lower amount of money to allow the club to be sold. Bit like Pompey's owner who held up the supporters purchase of the club as a major creditor wanting all his money. Unless I am way off the mark.
I would not put anything past our owner. Seems he would rather blow his son's inheritance from today's statement.
David Conn ‏@david_conn Assem Allam insists on Hull City change to Tigers: "No one on earth is allowed to question my business decisions." http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/14/hull-city-owner-allam-quit-tigers?CMP=twt_gu
It seems you would rather break the toy if you can't have it. Bit of an odd "if I can't have it I want to see it fail" attitude, but you are entitled to your own opinion. Actually, for me the determining factor is the survival of the club. For you it seems the determining factor is rather the opposite. Well, we shall see in due course what happens. Will you actually stop going if the name does change?
If we survive, we're a premier league club, we have a strong squad, a great manager, a good stadium - there'll be someone willing to buy us out. Allam could just settle a repayment plan on his loans with the club, I'm sure him and the buyer could settle some agreement for him to recieve what he's still owed after the sale fee. If we get relegated its a different ball game.
Not really, you half baked tosser, and if you don't want to hear it you can always put me on ignore, or you can **** of and stop coming on here. I care about the club, you care about the name. If you don't get your own way you have a little tantrum. Diddums.
I'd rather break the toy? It's not me trying to change a toy that's not broken "It means Allam will continue to fund new players" - when has he said this? He isn't funding new players, he's increasing our debt. "Never mind new income, it has attracted the existing monies that Allam has put in, without which we would be stuffed." - Hull City has attracted current money, you think changing our name will increase future income. How? If future income does increase will it not also have increased as Hull City? AA has loaned money, not "put it in" he has simply increased our debt. "Because Allam would walk away and currently the club is not self sustaining. A position you claimed to welcome." The club is not self sustaining because of AA's poor business sense. Do you honestly think he'll walk away from £80m+? If you do believe that do you still trust his business acumen? Do you see having such a volatile individual owning the club as a good thing? If he walks, he walks, we'd be better off without him. Currently our debts are over double what they were when he took over. Yes I would stop going.
Steve Bruce must be wondering what he has let himself in for with all this **** hitting the fan.I can see him exiting the circus at the first opportunity.He only has to bide his time keep the team performing as they are currently and a decent club with a traditional chairman ,who understands football ,will come calling .Allams money alone wouldn't have achieved the success in the transfer market without the respect Bruce commands from everyone involved in soccer. So ASSAM take your "sweeties" bribes and go back to what you understand .
After thinking about today's press release I can only draw two conclusions:- 1. AA is sending a clear message to The FA, allow the name change or watch the **** hit the fan, and The FA will bear at least part of the responsibility for the fall out. 2. The majority of fans think that the press release was intended for them, personally I don't think it was because I don't think he gives a toss about the fans.
Quote Originally Posted by look_back_in_amber View Post After thinking about today's press release I can only draw two conclusions:- 1. AA is sending a clear message to The FA, allow the name change or watch the **** hit the fan, and The FA will bear at least part of the responsibility for the fall out. 2. The majority of fans think that the press release was intended for them, personally I don't think it was because I don't think he gives a toss about the fans. You agree he doesn't give a toss about you, yet still offer him your arse. Strange.
Allam cant have made only right decisions throughout his business career - there must have been occasions where he has backed down on a failing idea . Otherwise he is just throwing dice all the time . He is clearly throwing dice now but his threat isnt only to the Fans , its pointed at the FA too , i cant see how the FA can allow this public threat to take effect . This is turning into some "Gift" - the man is a fraud. He calls us the community , that is so right , we dont demand Premier league football - we dont demand to see the worlds top players - thats only something earned - all that is demanded is that our club is left unmolested . The community lives and breathes around the football club and to imply it can only happen in the premier league shows that although he has been here 40 yrs , he has no idea what a clubs identity means to that community . We can be in the 4th division (again) it will still be our club , long after Allam has popped his crazy clogs
You are so gulable. How the **** is he going to walk and get his money out. The only way he can walk is to sell the club. If he trys to walk any other way he ****s up his other businesses. Yes he can sell all the players, put the club into administration but how is that going to get his money back. The players are the clubs only assets and on a good day you are talking of only £25 million for the lot of them. I really hope we do stay up and get a buyer so we can get rid of the stupid old twat. The more crap he comes out with the more I want to see the back of him, just because he saved the club does not give him the right to act like a petulant schoolboy and threaten to take his ball back if he doesn't get his way.
Does he really expect that the FA will now give in to his crazy whim in the hope of vicariously saving our club? "Have I ever gone back on my word?" says Allam Yes you have since you asked, you said you wouldn't change the name (during an interview in the very same lounge), if there was no evidence that changing the name would benefit the club financially WHERE IS THIS EVIDENCE MR ALLAM?
I've just had this discussion on a FB Group I've now been banned for. I just don't understand how my care for the club over the name is somehow seen as me caring about the club any less than others. I have always said I am against the name change for as long as Allam fails to provide any tangible evidence that the name change will provide us with self-sustainability. The minute there is cold hard evidence that a name change would make us a sustainable club I would support it. I don't see that as caring less about the club than others, in fact I see it as the opposite. For people to say they would rather see the club relegated and in liquidation than with the name Hull Tigers is baffling to me.
cant even find Jelavic news on the newsnow feed - its proper buried under the bad news . cook a cat !
