Match Day Thread Newcastle v Sunderland- Official Build Up / Matchday Thread

Or in your case you missed out the letter R from the beginning of the word soul..

 

There's only one of them on this forum and it isn't a Mag.

 

A disappointing effort RAW

F-

 

Think you've missed the U out from your letter F.

 

I can't really get annoyed enough to get to that point with anyone on here.

Anyway RAW doesn't cry like a little girl when you sling a bit of banter his way unlike some of his fellow dung dwellers. One such poster is still pissing and moaning about something I posted in 2011. That is when you know you've really got under someones skin after trying to be clever with you

 

Somebody with a good memory then.

 

Or a massive chip...............

 

These days I thought the chips with good memory were getting smaller....

I'll get me coat.....

 

What's with this 'Bubble' policing for the SAFC fans.

Edit - Having just read a couple of threads on the SAFC board, they don't seem very happy with it anyway.
Civil liberties, and us being to blame for it etc.
Oh well, such is life

 

I think I have an idea who the chap is.
Does hiss name rhyme with Camsterdan dodger?

 

Agree that Whitey doesn't jump on the beel bus. He can give as good as he takes which is fair play.

 

Would they let him on this one?

 

Mackems starting to crawl out I see.

 

From nufc.com

It looks like there's lots of special buses put on for the Mackems:

mackems (h) update

Briefing their own fans, the mackems confirm that the derby fixture will be subject to so-called "bubble" policing constraints - in other words, individual travel for away fans with tickets in the away end will be prevented - a response to the post-match disorder back in April:

After consultation with fans groups, the respective Safety Advisory Groups, Newcastle United FC and Northumbria Police, the club’s plans will build on last season’s coach travel arrangements, which received positive feedback from SAFC fans.

All SAFC supporters attending the game will be required to travel to St James’ Park on official transport.

This will include a fleet of buses departing from the stadium of light and official supporters’ branch transport, with designated rendezvous points along the route.

Transport, including the official supporters’ branch coaches, will be provided free of charge by SAFC.

Fans are advised that SAFC’s terms and conditions of issue for tickets for the game will clearly state that official transport must be used in order to gain access to St James’ Park. Supporters will also be required to leave St James’ Park on the official transport provided.

 

NEWCASTLE and Sunderland fans are joining forces in opposing police plans to force supporters travelling to next month’s derby to do so on official coaches.


Thousands have hit out after it was announced that Black Cats fans will have to go to next month’s game at St James’s Park on official transport – or they will not be allowed into the ground.

The so-called “bubble trip” has been slammed by chiefs at Sunderland’s Seventy3 fanzine, who said the plans, agreed on by both football clubs and Northumbria Police, were “flawed”.

It comes after violence flared in Newcastle city centre following last year’s game on Tyneside, where scores of people were arrested amid disorder after Sunderland won 3-0.

Newcastle supporters have also spoken out, fearing the police tactic will become the norm for all future Tyne-Wear derby encounters.

Michael Martin, editor of NUFC fanzine True Faith, wrote: “As well as the restrictions placed upon civil liberties, this is also wholly inconvenient for ordinary football supporters, many of who live well away from Sunderland, where I expect the buses will leave from.

“Of course, the excuse for this action will be that it is in response to the scenes at the last derby at St James’ Park.

“I do not recall any other area of public life where the many are punished for the sins of the few, such as represented by this Draconian action.

“The disorder after last April’s game was caused, by and large, after the game by people who had mostly not been to the match.

“The trouble was mostly also not caused by Sunderland fans travelling to and from the game.

“Yet it is long-standing Sunderland fans, and we’ll be next, who face being punished for idiots who do not attend matches.”

Sunderland fans hoping to go to the game on Saturday, February 1, will have to go on official coaches, many of which will leave from the Stadium of Light on the morning of the game. Other coaches will take alternative routes and pick-up passengers at designated points. They will not able to gain entry to the ground unless they travel this way.

Mr Martin added: “This is the wrong action, targeting the wrong people and it will have the wrong outcome.”

Assistant Chief Constable Jo Farrell said: “We welcome the decision by Sunderland Football Club in trying to avoid disorder that has arisen at recent derby matches.

“In particular Sunderland Football Club’s initiative to condition ticket sales on travel to St James’ Park aims to prevent disorder that occurred around Central Station and the routes to and from the stadium at last year’s match. During the escort of Sunderland supporters, there were incidents of disorder in Newcastle city centre directed at them and police.

“The transportation issue has been discussed between both clubs and the police. Based on those discussions, Sunderland Football Club took this decision which is aimed at ensuring the safety of their supporters.

“Northumbria Police cannot direct changes to kick-off times or control the issue of tickets and how supporters travel. We have worked with both clubs and spectators groups in advance of this fixture to minimise a repeat of last year.”

 

The whole thing sounds like a bit of a cop out by the Police. As well as the cost cutting element it looks like they are wanting to avoid a big part of the derby day policing job and hiding behind the health and safety aspect of things.... what's the betting they make a song and dance about really low arrest rates after the match?
If I (god help me) ever lived in Pennywell I'd not be best pleased having to get my arse up to SJP to come right back again for our away game.

 

To be fair it seems that the trouble that arises derby day is always surrounded by the location of away fans who are travelling by trains, also if you travel by an independent bus the club has arranged a meeting place for the buses to join the queue of buses heading to SJP and when getting the train it's from Sunderland train station to Newcastle train station (or vice versa depending on who's at home) both of which are very close to the football stadiums. On top of this I was my way through to watch the game at my sisters two season ago and there was people at my platform on the metro who were intimidated by the Newcastle fans singing songs.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140107/statment-from-newcastle-and-sunderland_2281670_3608446

Statement From Newcastle And Sunderland

Newcastle United and Sunderland AFC are surprised and disappointed with the statement issued yesterday by Northumbria Police in which the force claims that the police cannot direct changes to kick-off times for the clubs' fixtures, referring in particular to the derby games.
Over a number of years both clubs have made repeated representations to Northumbria Police to try and reach agreement over kick-off times to enable a traditional 3pm kick-off, or later, to enable broadcasters to give the game consideration in the majority of their time slots for live coverage.
Police forces up and down the country have been able to police high-profile derby matches for years, including most recently the first Welsh derby in the Premier League, Cardiff v Swansea, on Sunday 3rd November at 4pm, Arsenal v Tottenham at 5.15pm on Saturday 4th January, and Manchester City v Manchester United on Sunday 22nd September at 4pm.
In recent years, Northumbria Police have rejected every request made by the clubs for later kick-off slots, including Saturday 5.30pm, Sunday 4pm and Monday 8pm.

Both clubs have evidence in the form of considerable written correspondence between Northumbria Police, the Premier League and the clubs, which contradicts their statement of yesterday.
Indeed that correspondence has stated that Northumbria Police would not be prepared to police the evening fixtures requested previously, as well as their confirmation to the Premier League in writing in January 2013 that the force would not support derby matches with kick-off times later than 1.30pm.
For Northumbria Police therefore to issue a statement stating that they do not direct changes to kick-off times is quite frankly false and absurd - and conflicts with the respectful and responsible manner in which both Newcastle United and Sunderland AFC have engaged with the police over many years with regard to the derby fixture.
In light of Northumbria Police's latest statement, Newcastle United and Sunderland AFC will now inform the Premier League that all future fixtures between the two clubs will be available for kick-off times to suit the clubs, the League and their broadcast partners, if applicable, and will expect Northumbria Police to police these games, especially given the considerable costs both clubs incur for such special police services.
After considering the police position, Sunderland AFC will be withdrawing the terms and conditions of ticket sales, which previously stated that all supporters must attend the game on official transport. The arrangements to provide complimentary buses and supporters branch transport will remain in place and Sunderland AFC advises fans that this is the safest method of travel to St James' Park.

Police lies? Surely not...

 

Loving the clubs coming together and making NP look like ****ing idiots, not that they need much help like.

 

I totally agree. I don't see this being the end of this one. It could get messy. NP may have misjudged this one. The days where public opinion automatically went onto the side of the police are long gone, particularly with the football community. They are now going to have to come out and admit their dishonesty or start serving the public in the way the public wants when it comes to local derbies.